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Originally Posted by DamianJ
True enough. But the thought of a poor scared little 18 year old having to put up with sexual advances from a shooter is making a little bit of sick come up.
Maybe I am naive, maybe I just have had the pleasure to work with decent photographers, but I don't think it's A Good Idea to hit on people you employ.
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Have you never heard of a "Closed Shoot"?
Most of the shooters I've know over the years preferred to work alone, especially when shooting solo girl. The reasons are obvious and many to those who think about.
Having a fat, ugly person sitting watching isn't something they would normally allow. The girl is going to ask "Who is this person?" While thinking "WTF is this guy doing here?". To explain you away as the marketing man for the site, is going to get her worried right away. While shooting unless you know exactly how to act, the odds are you will put her off. Even if you don't you might drag her attention away from the work onto you.
What ever the outcome having someone like you in watching a shoot is a lose, lose situation. You bring zero to the table. Just problems. Go read the thread about model's escorts in on the shoot for verification.
When shooting a days work the costs are something like this when shoot film.
Model 200 GBP
Film 100-200 GBP
Make up 100 GBP
Location, props, equipment, model's agent, refreshments, travel, equipment all go on top of the budget. Sometimes more than others, but all have to be paid.
Then there's postage or courier costs to send the sets to clients over seas, or fule to get you to local clients.
A solo girl shoot can easily cost 500 GBP ($800). The only thing that saves today is digital and the cameras are far more expensive. And from this thread it seems digital needs to be constantly upgraded, my film cameras lasted 5 years. Eva and I budgeted a solo girl shoot at $1,000. To cover everything.
Now to have someone like you sitting in the corner on that shoot will take you giving me $1,000. Or anyone else. Even when on trips shooting with other pro shooters like Colby and Mason, if we were shooting solo girl we had a closed set in or outside the villa. It was the best way to make money.
As for your jibes about hitting on the model?
Don't you see $1,000 to upset a model in anyway, is financial suicide? From a shoot costing $1,000 a shooter needs to pull a profit out, not get laid. Models understood that and went along with the scenario.
The time to be business like is on a casting, when the model turns up, when setting the lights, when shooting the IDs. The time to start flirting is when you want the best out of the model. Then when the sets finished it's "Well Done, you're a real breeze to shoot. Want a tea and snack?" And walk out offering her the door from the studio and throwing a robe to cover up her nakedness.
Here endeth the lesson in shooting.
Can you name these decent shooters who allow you in on shoots and risk the chance of ruining the shoot?