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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx
Im a firm believer that if you cant back up your critical statements and claims about "how much better you are than they," you really need to keep your mouth shut when "those" particular subjects come up.
You jabber jawed about "currently working" shooters quality and Brazzers quality and got called out on it by someone who puts his money where his mouth is. Im sorry that your health is ailing and that you have limited physical abilities, but you should keep your "Alligator mouth from saying things that your Parakeet ass" cant back up.
Nathan isn't paying for half ass adult content, peppered with bullshit excuses. He is paying for a content that claims to be shot better than what he currently has, as claimed by you.
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Fabian's called me out to get some Bro points. He didn't think it through. He didn't think I'm not well enough to shoot it properly.
I said I would come back if somebody would pay $3,000 for a set.
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I didn't shoot the wrong style. I shot at the wrong price. For many who wouldn't or couldn't pay enough. Pay me $3,000 for a single set and I'll shoot the style you want.
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https://gfy.com/17937802-post66.html
Which was what we earned for a decent solo girl set. He said video. I will shoot a set far better than what's on his site. Because I can do it laying, kneeling and sitting. The video, well time will tell. Yes I said this later.
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Yes I lost my hunger for shooting scenes for $500 a throw. Or BG for $3,000. Give me $3,000 for solo and see me lick my lips and give up the retired life.
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To come out of retirement I need more than 1 scene.
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That shit happens all of the time when i shoot a lot of girls 1st scenes. Thats where being a good director gets separated from a "dude with a video camera."
I have shot scenes where the male and female absolutely do not like each other. when the scene is done and edited, you would not be able to tell that by looking at the finished scene. Good directors make good scenes out of those bad foreseen and unforeseen situations all day long.
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Yes people turn up and are in the wrong frame of mind. Shooting for magazines you either got them out of it or sent them home. There was no trying to make something out of it. The work was taken by an editor if it was good enough up to a month after, it was published on average 6 months after, we were paid 1-2 months after that. If the boy or girl wasn't good enough we sent them home. Never risk money on a lame horse.
Even if I have to pay for a location, flight to Spain, MU artist and everything else. One of the models walked if they were not good enough. There was no point in adding the cost of film and models money to the bill. Never throw good money after bad. The best event is to pull a solo set/sets off the day. The videos posted as "samples" would never of been shot if they were to be sold into a market with the same risks as the magazine market. They were shot for the content store and we knew sites would buy almost anything.
I'm not alone in this practice, good shooters or directors don't work with bad models. They kick them out. Letting a model get away with shit has led to the way so many of them model today. 10 years ago they dare not work like that in the UK or here in CZ. Bad performers result from shooters putting up with bad models antics, attitudes and crap performances. The effect that has had on todays porn is obvious.
SEND THEM HOME.
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At the end of the day Paul, I wish you luck on your scene, i know that you will do fine. Will it be better than a Brazers shot scene? We will all find out soon enough. After all it is a "Solo" scene. I shoot those as a prelude to my real scene, which would be a more complex multiple or "DP" scene with 2-3 guys added with a scripted story line to match.
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I would like to see inside the site, if Fabian doesn't give me a pass I will buy one and take a look. I'm pretty sure I can shoot a better set than what he has and that's where the money was. The video might be a problem because of my physical limits and the model and the script.
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Think of what i shoot compared to what you are going to shoot as a "Solo" plus a real scene. "Solos" are too basic and boring to me.
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I used to love shooting girl girl where they were really into each outh and over the years shot some pretty good stuff.
Stuff there from 1985 to very recent. But is it about who shoots the best? No. Someone on $500 or $700 a solo girl scene really can't shoot good content, or won't as he should be able to earn more elsewhere. If not now definitely a few years ago.
It's about money. And that's what spends in the shops. Not "I'm a better shooter than you."
This thread was meant to point out the problems todays shooters face. Like budgets, bad models for the reasons you stated and other things. Trolls turned it into a contest and trolling fest.
I'm off for a rest. Been here far too long.
Lastly. Look at who shoots for Evil Angel, Wicked, Vivid, Hustler, Private, Digital Desires and countless others and answer why don't they work for Manwin, Bangbros and others on the Internet only?