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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx
Come on Nathan you know how this guy is. I saw this one coming a mile away.
Im figuring one of two things;
One: is that he needs the extra money to buy the equipment to shoot to your specs. (Im guessing his old ass 70's Beta cam wont do the job.)
Two: This guy wants to price himself well out of reason so that he can still keep posting his outdated statements and general bullshit.
Along with puzzles and bird watching, chatting on GFY is one of Paul's retirement recreational hobby.
Taking you up on your reasonable offer would take all of that away from him. He knows deep down inside that he cannot compete with the level of todays competition and would have issues understanding todays cameras and current camera technology. (He would also have problems finding film for his stills camera, with Kodak not making film anymore and all.) 
Failure, which is inevitable for Paul if he took you up on your offer, would give GFY the ammo to throw back at him every time he posts some useless outdated production thread. This is a no win situation for Paul. He will continue to mask the fact that he cannot compete in todays porn market with with todays shooters with his outrageous production quotes. 
I on the other hand would love a shot at shooting for your company. I defiantly have the skills, expirence and talent to compete with all of your current shooters.  |
You simply don't get it.
I was asked aboyt getting hungry to work again. I said not at the prices paid by Internet. I then said if anyone wants to pay me what I used to earn I will get hungry again.
The price was $3,000. Fabian agreed. 1 scene for $3,000.
Now he says he doesn't pay that.
Therefore backing up my point.
THE INTERNET DOESN'T PAY WELL ENOUGH TO MAKE ME HUNGRY AGAIN.
Whether I can or cannot shoot as well as you is totally utterly completely irrelevant. I got $3,000 for a solo girl set and video. That's all that matters. It's not a competition based on who shoots the best content. It's business it's about $$$$$$$
There are shooters who can outshoot you and me in a bat of an eyelid. Do they earn more money is the only thing that matters in business.
If you're a better shooter than me and was in 2008 and wasn't selling some work to magazines you're a lousy businessman.
Here you go Fabian again backs up my point.
We also price this rather simple:
Producer fees (photo & video): $800
Talent: $600.00 (for solo)
Location: $500.00
Make-up & Hair: $100.00
What the fuck is $800 to the producer for a days shoot, shooting what I saw on
www.shesafreak.com. I can earn far more than that shooting a wedding. Probably earn more churning out stuff for ATK. Will I?
NO FUCKING WAY.
I bet I could earn more shooting for magazines even today. And that's what you guys don't get. Pick up the phone and get marketing. T%here are still magazine sales to be had. Viv Thomas, Steve Colby both still shoot for mags and I know that for a fact. And not for $800 a day.
Fabian back your mouth with your money and pay what you said you would, I'm still willing to shoot it.
I set a price, Fabian agreed then changed his story. I back my word, he doesn't.
And if you missed it. IT'S NOT FABIAN OFFER, HE ACCEPTED MY OFFER.
But you asking for his business shows what you will do to get it. You can take $800 a day. I won't.
Fabian I will shoot three scenes. AT THE PRICE I ORIGINALLY OFFER AND YOU ACCEPTED.