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Originally Posted by sperbonzo
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That article, points out exactly what I'm talking about.... this isn't left, right, dem's or rep's, some unions donate right others left, the people go all directions, practice various faiths, they aren't 'one sided on political opinion.'
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the liberal demonstrations in Wisconsin"
This isn't a liberal demonstration at any point, level, ideal, factor of anything. These people, are losing what they have, right now, they are left they are right, they are everything in between. So as we bicker over this, they actually lost something that generations of families, Americans, have fought for.
Without question, the state has a budget issue.... and cutting corporate taxes the way he did, increased the project shortfall. He did not tackle the actual issues, at any point, factor or degree. Forcing people to cover more of the pension with our tax dollars, is not a fix. Cutting people's wages, doesn't solve the future problem. Other States without Collective Bargaining do not do as well in School/education and in some cases Protection and the those States have budget issues as well - so it's not a factor other than corporate interest.
The State can solve the issue by restructuring how the system works, for everyone new coming in. Then they should lead by example, and give up the same thing they're asking the people to give up. All Fed/State workers should take a pay cut - all of them! Then start paying more of the pension/401k's, ect themselves, and all be willing to give up medical benefits and all without question give up the huge percentage of life long earnings they get to keep....
If they're so willing to do it to the people, then they should be willing to give up an equal cut. But that isn't happening.
The media, while you guys love to paint them left/liberal, is so far from that it's not even funny. From the left perspective, every news source is very right, and fox is the leader. MSNBC is't liberal, to liberals.... they just try to put a slant on it, and have no idea wtf liberals want/are/think.
That being said... the wsj, fox, msbnc, or anyone not covering what is actually going on, what is actually being said (like in the punked audio), and even the idea that they focus on the stupid political signs... This is the proof you need to see the truth, they're all on the same side, they aren't even left or right, shit the owner of Fox isn't even American.
Their is so much information about what's really going on here - truly, get away from any media and listen to them, read the bill, read the bill.... read it. This is the ultimate take over and Wisconsin is ground zero!
Stop trying to twist this left/right - it's not... Bring your tea party buddies, the fight is on, NOW!