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Old 02-20-2011, 03:09 PM  
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Originally Posted by theking View Post
It is primarily about breaking some of the unions...the way that I am understanding it some unions will still be allowed to have bargaining power. The Repubs will not allow any further discussion about the matter and are demanding a vote...which they will win...that is why the Dems walked out in hopes that the protests will...at the least...allow further discussions/amendments to be presented by the Dems.

The Governor said this morning that he is not going to bend and the Repubs in the assembly say they are not going to bend...if they toe that line...the Dems will have no other choice than to return and allow a vote...which the Repubs will win.

If you recall...since President Reagan broke the Air Controllers union...many unions have been broken. Few jobs are union any more...and many of those that are union are extremely weak and keep giving concession after concession because they are weak unions. There are only a handful of unions that are still strong...the Teamsters being one of them.

When I was young I belonged to the Laborers union and it was strong at the time but I do not know how strong it is now.
Laborers union is ok on union job sites and highway projects, any federal jobs as well.
I've been in two unions, IUEC and Teamsters.
The unions are a great thing, but I don't agree with a lot of what they do. Like telling their members how to vote.
Air Controllers, I remember that, they didn't show up for work, they shouldn't be able to do that, when I worked under the IUEC, I couldn't even strike a job site, if we didn't show up for work, they found others to do it.
Collective bargaining is putting all the benefits and pay on the table at the same time, by eliminating most that, the unions will have to negotiate one item at a time, the unions prefer to do that all at once.
This does take away from the unions power, but the things they are talking about changing right now, the unions have already agreed to.
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