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Old 02-20-2011, 10:06 AM  
Vendzilla
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Originally Posted by Agent 488 View Post
it is idiots like you that are rushing the US into a corporate feudal system. congrats.
What are you a moron? do you think that the unions should use the money they collect in massive donations to democrat agenda, thats what they do, weather the union members are democrat or republican, my biggest complaint while being a union member, have you ever had a union card, if not, you are talking out your ass!

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Originally Posted by tony286 View Post
nope , I don't understand this I receive from the government that's ok but those other people that receive from the government that's wrong. Like the people that make their living on the internet and then say government does nothing for me. If it wasnt for gov funding for the creation of the net they would be working at radio shack.
I wish Barry would say you know the republicans are right we are cutting the budget by 50 percent. When middle class people would see how it directly effects them they would stop listening to millionaire pundits and stop voting against their own interests. People that bitch those government workers have benefits I don't have. They dont stop and fucking think. What do they have that I dont have anymore a union. Hmm maybe there was something to them. No more unions, workers are making shit and the ceo's now pay themselves 500x the avg worker and that's not when the job is shipped off to china.
Unions were killing employment, that was the line. Well there are very few unions left and I dont see the jobs coming back in boatloads. The middle class are played against each other and it sucks.
Unions got great pay and benefits for the autoworkers, then opened the doors for free trade with NAFTA, where did the new cars start being made? The government had to bail out the automakers. It's a bad deal all around.

No one it taking away from the unions other than a budget cut to them, they shouldn't be exempt from the bad economy. Here in Northern California, they have already done some of these cuts, http://www.redding.com/news/2011/feb...o-pay-pension/

I ask you this

You are for big business and the rich to pay more taxes, you know that states that have a high tax rate , the business moves away, it's basic economics, California has been losing business for years because of it's high taxes and regulations. No Business, NO work, NO JOBS, less taxes from that employment, less money in the budget for those state employee's.

So how would you fix the budget?
Raise taxes in that state, driving out business that can do the same work for less in taxes in Nevada?
Or cut the budget, living within the means of the state?

I don't mind paying more taxes, "IF" the government is not wasting the money, and living beyond it's means is wasting it.

We had a balanced budget 10 years ago, Bush blew that up with the war and the homeland security and all that bullshit, so instead of whining about what Bush did, don't you think it's time to do something about it?
Barry had full control of the house and senate and during that time the unemployment rate stayed at above 9%, but spent his big fights on new entitlements, more spending, money we don't have and doing nothing about the trade problems.
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that
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