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Old 02-15-2011, 06:53 PM  
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Originally Posted by tony286 View Post
How about when the little guy is busting his ass and he gets laid off in his 50's because if the job is done overseas and the ceo gets a huge bonus?That guy is fucked, burns thru his savings ,his 401k no one wants to hire someone in his 50's.So he loses his house it kills his credit. Yep its all his fault, they got you buying the bullshit line.People that worked harder than you can imagine are getting fucked and losing it all. My father worked for a large healthcare company they were shipping jobs overseas by the boat loads. This was during the bush boom years and then the chairman took a 500 million dollar bonus.
Its economic not a value judgement.
Don't get me wrong. I'm in support of a much stronger safety net -- in terms of better triggers on unemployment assistance, wage insurance, health care, foreclosure insurance, etc.

I'm in favor of putting money into research and development and science, and in programs that will increase education and skills.

We just don't have a way of stopping globalization and free-trade. It going to happen whether we have trade agreements or not. I'm just saying it's an economic reality.

I'm also not blaming the people who did it right. I acknowledge the problems you are describing. That's why I am in favor of the things I listed above, as well as a progressive tax system. I don't even mind paying a few % more and I don't even live in the USA anymore.

I just strongly disagree with V's contention that we could reverse free-trade and thus solve these problems.

And at the same time, I'm not prepared to refrain from chastising those who are "fucked" who did not do it all right, who made stupid decisions, but still want to blame the boogieman of free-trade.
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