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Old 05-28-2003, 02:34 PM  
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Whether or not WMD materials are ever found is immaterial.

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I completely disagree. Why is it immaterial? This was how the war was originally sold to us.

Bottom line...Presidents do not tell the truth...the whole truth and nothing but the truth and as I have stated it was only a part of multiple reasons.


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If memory serves me I think there have been a couple of people that have been detained for having links to "al Qaeda" and I believe a training camp was destroyed in the North that had links to "al Qaeda". Whether or not my memory serves me well...is immaterial.

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If my memory serves correctly (and I could be wrong) we were shown satellite images before the war of so called training camps in Northern Iraq. I never heard anything more about what they were.
It was reported that the training camp was bombed by US Air power and was vacated when our ground forces entered the area.



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The invasion of Iraq was for multiple reasons and WMD materials and "al Qaeda" members or those that have links with "al Qaeda" were just a couple of those reasons and in my opinion not on top of the list of reasons.

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These were the reasons that Bush started with and then we conveniently started hearing about how brutal Saddam was and it was about liberating the Iraqi's. Funny how the media doesnt say much about how the Iraqi's don't want us there and are revolting.
The media does report about the problems in Iraq but there is not any mass revolt at this point in time.


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It is ridiculous to keep repeating the President said this or the President said that. There has not been a President in my life time that has told the truth...the whole truth...and nothing but the truth...and anyone that pays attention is aware of this...and I assume that the same applies to every leader of every country.

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Sure every president (or politician for that matter) lies. But there is a HUGE difference between lying about a blow job and lying to invade a country.
President Johnson (Democrat) stood on the floor of Congress and told a bald face lie about the Tonkin Gulf incident and as a result the Congress passed the "Tonkin Gulf Resolution" which engaged the USA in the longest war in our history. This is only one incident of a President lying about an event where our military was used.


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In addition Iraq is a fair sized country...with lengthy borders...ports and a poputlation of 27,000,000. Easy to hide materials...easy to export materials...easy for people to hide among the population...or leave the country.
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That is true. But Bush claimed US intelligence had "undeniable evidence" that there were WMD. When the war started Rumsfeld claimed "its just a matter of time" before they found them, and now today Rumsfeld is saying they were probably destroyed before the war. Does that really make much sense to you? If you are a leader of a country that is about to be invaded why the hell would you destroy your weapons?
The use of certain types of WMD's would have been far more harmful to Iraqi troops...not to mention Iraqi civilians...then it would have been to US forces. The successful use of certain types of WMD's is not an easy task to accomplish.
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