I see myfreecams is cited often in those tube threads:
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Originally Posted by will76
While most don't pay, many do.
The huge difference is what they are paying for they can't get for free. The site is both a traffic magnet and a way to up sell some people. But the bottom line is it doesn't take away from other cam sites.
The people who want a private show still have to pay for a private show whether it is on MFC or cams.com.
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Now you say MFC doesn't take away from other cam sites, unlikely tubes take away from pre-recorded content sites. You say that guys can change site and do a private in a site other than MFC despite they're watching free nude live shows in MFC all day and MFC provides private chats?
Seems inaccurate, as in every market, whatever big player take away from smaller players, whatever the reason the big one became big (honest or not, nice or ugly, free give away or not).
That has been facebook took away from myspace, google took away from yahoo... also MFC took away from other cam sites when it became bigger.
And when guys have MFC in bookmark and stay there, are not closing it to open another cam site for doing a private chat, they will do it in MFC and rarely return on old cam sites who, in meantime, may have less then the thousand online models at any time in MFC.
And MFC give away live porn so gets and sticks traffic without need to pay all this traffic, only part of it, this is the same of tubes, free content = get and retain lots traffic for free.
I would also question, if people there say cams will always go well and problem is only who shoot prerecorded content, why the cam sites around of 5 years ago? I mean same companies and owners, if some changed name or spin off not counts. Can you tell me how many totally new and independent cam sites (also not using streamray models via API or whitelabeling in any way) was out in past 2 years and are now very big and healthy?
Note that MFC exists from 5+ years and became popular exponentially only after 2009, like facebook took years, now people think is a new site but is not at all, and if someone to open a cam site today should consider it may take years to reach the critical mass, after which there's the exponential growth (and this accordingly with who's in top at the moment).
Widely, if you have a big player (free content or not, cams of pre-recorded, important is became bigger), since each a single guy will not use many different sites for same purpose, but one or two only (due to time, lazyness, doing what everyone else does etc.), then the bigger player eats a lot the smaller ones. Is like: the first get 70%, the second 20%, the third 10%, then others the 1% and less. When the new top replace the old top, the old top lose accordingly big and quickly as the growing one raises (just with a correction of the increase of total audience as Nathan says, but of course this global audience growth is of benefit of sites who grow and can't balance the loss of who lose, who simply see the loss).
Now for porn if guys use one or two bookmarks only, you rather put a big tube than a small tube, and a tube rather than a tgp/mgp, and so on. The same would be for cams, guys may have seen many cam sites and maybe registered, but then will decide to use one and usually is who is bigger or have some plus, one of which is free shows. Maybe you did not noticed but visualsecrets added free naked shows for tips, streamate added "gold" which is tips often used to flash tits for free, and so on most old style cam sites are actually hit by MFC and answering by provide free stuff too or mimic it, like most pay site owners launched tubes (with or without success at it).
I run cam sites from 2004 which is before of tubes and MFC (MFC was there shortly after but kept small andunknown for years), at that time there was many new cam sites launched and some became those who are top today, but also lots of those who was big closed. Then after 2008-2009 the ratio of new cam sites who launch and keep and and become big it dropped to zero, same or more than launch new pre-precorded pay site programs. Still total of money spent in cams probably kept same or grown, but simply it concentrated on those few big cam sites, the last one to join being MFC, and eventually done it because of free shows but not only. Like brazzers may have lots of paid signups because advertized in unsold ad spots of pornhub/tube8 etc. but not only.
That's more a matter of oligopoly due to reached a dominant market position and missing of an anti-trust to force Brazzers/Manwin or MFC to be smaller (like someone wanted to split Microsoft in pieces as dominate operating systems). How this dominant market position was reached can be debated, either for Microsoft and Manwin or MFC, but is reached and actually yes, it take away from others, just because users are lazy and do what others do, so they all have a microsoft windows, all dropped myspace for facebook account, and all go at pornhub for a quick wank. Of course if they're always in a certain site for free, whoever may want to pay for something, will get the idea what to pay from same site he's there always for free, and not from site who have no traffic.
Same applies for MFC, if guys are there for free, maybe after a month or a year one of them will have the idea to buy a private, but will do there and not in another cam site they're never into (whatever popups bounce him there daily).
My 2 euro cents