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Old 01-06-2011, 02:23 PM  
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there's a huge difference between employing someone full time and taking someone on a per-project, per hour basis. That is where the difference in price comes from - if you are prepared to commit a salary position to a programmer, month in month out, then your per hour rate will be a lot lot less.

The same goes for every walk of business life.
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Also, @brandonstills

Don't be knocking PHP up in here... I guarantee I can write an app that will out perform any other language when run in the correct, optimized environment for virtually any task. (Notice I said virtually any task )

First off, if you think any scripting language these days is a blocking factor to code running fast and/or efficiently... you're going to lose a LOT of credibility in my eyes.

If anything, code wise, it's some of these frameworks that show poor performance. Even Rails... I love RoR syntactically but it is a slow ass bitch when compared to other frameworks/languages! It is, IMO, the most elegant syntax on the planet and I love Ruby for it's pure OO driven syntax however... it's slooooow. RoR heads will argue that caching allows RoR apps to stay on par... sure but that doesn't leave any room to catch up with other languages when they use caching as well!

Right now the largest limiting factor is storage, specifically, relational storage. That's why NoSQL is so hot right now... When you start to take into account large scalability + social features (which require much more responsive times and larger data sets) it's no wonder everything is moving towards NoSQL!

PHP is a fantastic language and anyone that says otherwise is just ridding the elitist short bus. I am proficient in a LOT of different languages yet still prefer to write _most_ web apps in PHP for a variety of different reasons. Not the least of which is speed...

I will say though that your posts about the best developers being able to cherry pick the best and most profitable opportunities are absolutely correct! You definitely have a firm grasp on where most of the top developers sit as well as a variety of other topics, I just had a bone to pick with the whole ripping on PHP thing
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