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antirush · 05-26-2003, 02:51 AM

This story beginned in the period 15/03 - 21/03 when I started working with Dutchbilling as processing in one adult webmaster revenue program. Everything was fine - I earned 789 bucks in that week, and I received that wire.

That was the first and last wire transfer I ever received from Dutchbilling.

In the next periods, I continued sending traffic. But in one point, I noticed the high percentage of "credits" - reversal transactions. As the site owner explainted to me, it's chargebacks, reversals, revokes and even checks - checks are credited but they have a high percent of charges, as there is no way to check funds in a check account.
Dutchbilling have no detailed statistic about bad transactions. "Credits" - it's all. Be satisfacted, webmaster, it's just "credits" DB will handle it.

Infortunately, DB had a lot of problems with fraudlent transactions, and they suspended a lot of accounts. My account was suspended in the day they promissed to send me the money - 19 may.

A lot of emails was send questioning "Why the account was suspended?". They never replied.

So, here's the stats resume for your judgement:

Period Sales Credits

22/03-28/03 79 (762,13) 4 (-54,88)
29/03-04/04 40 (664,30) 1 (-21,97)
04/05-04/11 56 (487,82) 6 (-49,32)
04/12-04/18 81 (756,57) 1 (-5,47)
04/19-04/25 25 (549,25) 0
04/26-05/02 6 (131,82) 0

Overall:
22/03-05/02 287 (3351,89) 12 (-131,64)
"Credits" percent: 4,1%

After end of the april I stopped sending traffic. Now is 26 May, no money, nothing.
I talked with Merijn (121409158) he said "Sorry, but i can't do anything about account (my_account_number_here)"

Damn, what could I do with that high "credit" percent? I never promissed free stuff or celebrities. The cardholder always had the site tour and the prices in front of him. DB should contact the site owners to help them decrease that "credits" ratio.

As prove of my words, I can show my stats from the same partnership, but in other processor.
Visitors Sales Rebills Sales ratio Chargebacks % Chargebacks Amount to pay
Total: 5715 $873.62 $439.40 1:62 $0.00 0.00% $1301.99
91 sales, ZERO Chargebacks.

They told my traffic (= my work and time) is bad only after the moment the money should be send. Everything was fine for them.

I accuse Dutchbilling of stealing my time, my work and my money.

Fellow webmasters NEVER, NEVER, N-E-V-E-R work with Dutchbilling, because they can fuck up your work, and they do it brilliantly.

05-26-2003, 02:51 AM
antirush Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2	Dutchbilling - the big fuckup. This story beginned in the period 15/03 - 21/03 when I started working with Dutchbilling as processing in one adult webmaster revenue program. Everything was fine - I earned 789 bucks in that week, and I received that wire. That was the first and last wire transfer I ever received from Dutchbilling. In the next periods, I continued sending traffic. But in one point, I noticed the high percentage of "credits" - reversal transactions. As the site owner explainted to me, it's chargebacks, reversals, revokes and even checks - checks are credited but they have a high percent of charges, as there is no way to check funds in a check account. Dutchbilling have no detailed statistic about bad transactions. "Credits" - it's all. Be satisfacted, webmaster, it's just "credits" DB will handle it. Infortunately, DB had a lot of problems with fraudlent transactions, and they suspended a lot of accounts. My account was suspended in the day they promissed to send me the money - 19 may. A lot of emails was send questioning "Why the account was suspended?". They never replied. So, here's the stats resume for your judgement: Period Sales Credits 22/03-28/03 79 (762,13) 4 (-54,88) 29/03-04/04 40 (664,30) 1 (-21,97) 04/05-04/11 56 (487,82) 6 (-49,32) 04/12-04/18 81 (756,57) 1 (-5,47) 04/19-04/25 25 (549,25) 0 04/26-05/02 6 (131,82) 0 Overall: 22/03-05/02 287 (3351,89) 12 (-131,64) "Credits" percent: 4,1% After end of the april I stopped sending traffic. Now is 26 May, no money, nothing. I talked with Merijn (121409158) he said "Sorry, but i can't do anything about account (my_account_number_here)" Damn, what could I do with that high "credit" percent? I never promissed free stuff or celebrities. The cardholder always had the site tour and the prices in front of him. DB should contact the site owners to help them decrease that "credits" ratio. As prove of my words, I can show my stats from the same partnership, but in other processor. Visitors Sales Rebills Sales ratio Chargebacks % Chargebacks Amount to pay Total: 5715 $873.62 $439.40 1:62 $0.00 0.00% $1301.99 91 sales, ZERO Chargebacks. They told my traffic (= my work and time) is bad only after the moment the money should be send. Everything was fine for them. I accuse Dutchbilling of stealing my time, my work and my money. Fellow webmasters NEVER, NEVER, N-E-V-E-R work with Dutchbilling, because they can fuck up your work, and they do it brilliantly.