If you want old technology that is overstuff with useless software and underpowered just to make it seem like a better deal, go with ANY pc from any retailer.
If you want real value for your money, go for an Apple iMac.
If you must go with a PC, forget the brand names. Go OEM and custom order the machine you want. (ie: Fast CPU, lots of Ram, super-fast hard disk), and then finally Windows ONLY, without all the extra's and add-ons and other resource hogging shit you get with a Dell or HP. You'll save money and have a fast machine to boot.
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