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Old 12-12-2010, 01:48 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
re read the article
he complained publically on twitter BLAMING youtube
youtube techs responded publically back explaining it was the record company decision
it was not a mistake by youtube, it was a CHOICE by the record company, they set the flag to auto delete it
the record company had to go in and change the flag to allow it.

Youtube never made a mistake, all i am saying is preferential treatment, setting one companies flag to delete and another to allow is as much a monopoly abuse as when standard oil gave one station full supply of regular gas, and short supplied another with that grade (again never reduced to zero only short supplied them)
So then your problem is with YouTube not with his record label? It doesn't really matter. In the end YouTube didn't realize it was him trying to upload his video and they were trying to protect themselves. After he complained everything was. I still say had he contacted his record label and/or YouTube privately he would have gotten the same results. There is no anti-trust here, just a misunderstanding, but you don't want to see that.







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there is no way whatsoever you can claim that agreeing to handle 100% of the day to day operations of the joint venture could mean just running the membership site, and me handling all the other shit

there is no possible way he can claim that he didn't realize that i wanted to show him a bunch of stuff and then just walk away becuase i specifically said that what i would do
and that when he stated it would be cool as long as it produced 100 sales a day.

those two fact make it impossible for the deal to be anything other than me showing him a bunch of techniques, his staff implementing them, and i keep teaching until the site generates 100 sales a day.

any other interpretation of produce 100 sales a day would explictly violate the 100% agreement he made publically

however when Doc Publically tried to change "produce" to mean you do all the work, and all the day to day maintance to get those sales (a statement which clearly and absolutely violates the 100% agreement) you defended his position (hell your still trying to do it now).

Given that fact if i were to post the screenshot, you and robbie would simply find some way to "explain" how that screen shot was not good enough.

I would gain zero credibity from posting the screen shot becuase you would misrepresent things to back the doc lying ways.

I gain nothing from posting, and i have a potential of gaining something by not posting (since one of you guys might finally have the balls to back up your bullshit name calling with some cash).



so why don't you put up the 100k in the escrow account and let see which one of us is right.
It has been so long now that I can't recall the exact wording, but he said in the post if YOU - meaning you, not him using our techniques but YOU - could send 100 joins per day he could have a paysite set up with any kind of content you wanted and he would run the site. By reading what he wrote it was clear to me and everyone else that he meant he would run the site itself and you would get the traffic and generate the sales. The problem is you aren't in this business and have no idea how this business actually runs so you misunderstood him.That is fine. A normal human being misunderstands something and they admit it and say so. You could have simply said, "Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant, I can't/won't do that deal." While you would have been ridiculed, you would have at least been up front about it and eventually it would have blown over. But you can't do that. You can never be wrong so you spin it around and around and around until everyone just eventually gives up and that is what you are doing here.

If you showed a screenshot of an email with all the correct info on it and in that email it was very clear what you felt your position was I would give you credit for that and I would say that you made your position clear, but until then I am going with my stance that once you realized what he meant you also realized that your techniques could never generate those kinds of sales so you backed out.

I'm not putting shit into escrow. If you post it, and it says everything you say it does, I will give you the due credit. It won't mean that we will suddenly agree on everything, but it will give you credibility in that argument. But in the end I'm no paying $1 for it. Whether people believe you or not doesn't really matter to me. I just like bringing it up because I know it will piss you off and it makes you look like the schizo.

And you have noting more to gain other than credibility. I seriously doubt anyone will pay you one cent for your email.

Last edited by kane; 12-12-2010 at 01:50 PM..
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