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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies
I think it falls between 15 to 17 years. This is real estate 100. I'm not wasting my time proving this. If you want to learn YOU will google it. I have my real estate license and like I said, this is real estate 100.
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I was looking for an answer more like this:
The basic formula for calculating mortgage interest is:
Monthly Payment = Principal [ i(1 + i)n ] / [ (1 + i)n - 1]
which is explained in depth with detailed examples in the ebook. The "i" in the formula is the interest per compounding period, or the annual interest divided by the number of payments per year. It works out to this because mortgages are structured so that the payments are made per compounding period, normally a month, which makes it easy to produce a meaningful amortization table. The "n" in the formula is the number of compounding periods in the life of the loan. For a normal 30 year mortgage, n=360.
So you go to a bank and get approved for a 15 year or a 30 year fixed rate mortgage, and then you decide you want to pay it down a little more quickly by making 13 payments a year. The banks aren't normally set up to take a payment every 4 weeks, so the normal way to go about it, assuming again no penalties or fees, is to add one twelfth to each of your monthly payments. The question then becomes, how much time will you shave off the mortgage? The answer is, it depends on the interest rate, which will be a known for the mortgage you are accelerating, as will the principal and the period. So if you start prepaying at the very beginning of the loan, the formula can be simplified so we can solve for n, the number of payments. We'll substitute "x" for the messy part of the equation as we move things around, so it reads,
M(onthly payment) = P(rincipal) [ix / (x-1)]
multiply both sides by (x-1)
Mx - M = Pix
divide by the monthly payment
x-1 = Pix/M
divide both by x
1-1/x = Pi/M
rearrange
1-Pi/M = 1/x
and invert
x = 1 / (1-Pi/M)
substitute back in for x
(1 + i)n = 1 / (1-Pi/M)
which we might have reached faster if I was smarter about it, but that's as close to n as we're getting.
Now let's take some real numbers, like one of the examples from the ebook with a 30 year mortgage at 4.5% for $187,000 with a computed monthly payment of $947.51. If we were able to make 13 payments a year, we would use 13 compounding periods for:
i=0.045/13 = .003462
1+i = 1.003462
(1.003462)n = 1/[1-$187,000(.003462)/$947.51]
(1.003462)n = 1/(1-.6833) = 1/0.3167 = 3.16
So to solve for the amount of time lopped off the mortgage, we need to find an "n" that make
1.003462n = 3.16
The way to do this is to take a few guesses, let's start with 300 four week "months", and use the ^ for "to the power of"
1.003462 ^ 300 = 2.82, way too low, so let's try 312 "months"
1.003462 ^ 312 = 2.94, still too low, so let;s try 324 "months"
1.003462 ^ 324 = 3.06 getting close, so lets try 336 "months"
1.003462 ^ 336 = 3.19, too high, so try 333 "months"
1.003462 ^ 336 = 3.161, so that's what we're going with.
333 four week "months" has to be divided by 13 to see how many normal 12 month years we get
333/13 = 25.62 years.
Of course, it's not easy to find a bank that operates on 13 month years, but the difference between actually compounding 13 times a year and compounding 12 times a year with an extra /12 on each payment or a bi-weekly payment of $947.51 divided by two for the equivalent of 13 weekly payments will all come out around the same. It's easy enough to check the 12 payments with extra twelfths using the standard mortgage formula. Instead of
$947.51 per month, we'll pay $78.96 + $947.51 = $1026.47 per month giving:
i=0.045/12 = .00375
1+i = 1.00375
(1.00375)n = 1/[1-$187,000(.00375)/$1026.47]
(1.00375)n = 1/(1-.683) = 1/0.3168= 3.16 (notice that the 3.16 is the same factor we arrived at using the smaller payment and 13 four week "months"
We know the answer we expect to see is 25.62 years, so lets compute our first guess at n from 12 months times 25.62 years:
12 x 25.62 = 307.44
1.00375 ^ 307.44 = 3.16
So unless I made a math error somewhere, prepaying a the 1/12 extra payment each month is equivalent to making the payment 13 times a year. Now let's check bi-weekly for the same mortgage principal, using half the monthly payment on the 30 yr as the bi-weekly payment. Note that the interest being compunded bi-weekly means dividing the annual interest rate by 26:
$947.51 per month, we'll pay $947.51/2 = $473.76 per month giving:
i=0.045/26 = .001731
1+i = 1.001731
(1.001731)n = 1/[1-$187,000(.001731)/$473.76]
(1.001731)n = 1/(1-.683) = 1/0.31675 = 3.16 (notice that the 3.16 is the same factor we arrived at using the smaller payment and 13 four week "months" and the higher payment 12 times a year to the hundreds place, though there was a small difference, ie, 1 / 0.3168 vs 1/0.3156.
We know the answer we expect to see is 25.62 years, so lets compute our first guess at n from 26 biweekly payments times 25.62 years:
26 x 25.62 = 666.12
1.001731 ^ 666.12 = 3.16
The main point is that the savings in time and interest are all relative to a 30 year mortgage that you would have paid off otherwise. There's no winning or losing here.
Taking out a 30 year mortgage that allows you to prepay and making the equivalent of 13 payments a year will cut around five years off the mortgage, but those payments are no different than if you had taken out a 25 year mortgage to start with. The math is the same. The bi-weekly mortgages don't offer any savings over adding to the monthly payment, they were simply set up to help people who were bad at saving to manage their money. Since many salary employees get paid every two weeks, a the bank could automatically debit their checking account biweekly for the mortgage amount, and may insist on your enrolling in automatic payroll deposit to set up the loan. The only equivalency between bi-weekly and 13 payment mortgage schemes and paying off your mortgage "early" is if you arrange them so as to pay more on an annual basis than you would have done with a 30 year mortgage, as we did above.