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Old 12-05-2010, 04:45 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
says the guy who is so fundamentally clueless about copyright law and fair use that you argued copyright holders have complete control over how their music can and can not be used no matter if that action censors free speech or not

sort of strange given the fact that the constitution says that congress doesn't have the right to make laws that do that, and copyright act is a congress created law.

the only condition on if something is fair use or not is if it meets the 4 conditions of fair use

which puts this action (censoring commentary on one medium vs another) clearly in the censorship position.

he was able to post the video on facebook, just not on youtube

it the selective authorization that the anti-trust violation get it thru you head.

your dodging the issue, just like you did the last time we had this debate

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...+s ues&page=4






so the fact that you can't legally contract away fair use has nothing to do with your arguement that JB has to obey the contract even though it basically TOS away his fair use rights (to his own shit btw).

Did it occur to you that maybe his record label has a deal with Facebook to offer his new stuff to them first? Did it occur to you that maybe there are reasons they only let him put it on Facebook? This is what we who live in the real world call business. You see, sometimes in basic business you make a deal with a company to offer your goods or services to them on some sort of exclusive level so that you both benefit from it. Look at it like this. Taylor Swift recently put out a new album. She offered a deluxe edition of the album that had 3 extra songs on it, but it was only for sale at Target. Quick, call in the dogs! That is anti-trust! Taylor Swift is using her extra three songs to leverage the market and force you to buy it from Target! That is a monopoly and it must be stopped! It must be liberated! put it up on a torrent site and let everyone have it for free, that is the only way it will be fair!

Please.

There is no censoring of free speech here. It is a business deal, nothing more. Free Speech isn't always 100% absolute. If I go online and say a bunch of shit about you, you can sue me for it. Bieber could still post his video on YouTube, he would just have to face the wrath of his record label and he is not willing to do that.

You are getting desperate. You used to try to spin fancy words (half of which you would spell wrong) and then divert your arguments into other areas in an effort to detract from the original point. That was at least mildly amusing. Now you are just screaming free speech and you have no idea what you are talking about.
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