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Old 12-04-2010, 02:24 AM  
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Originally Posted by Forkbeard View Post
No shit? Wow, eight years in this business and I never noticed that.

Moving out of the realm of the sarcastic:

The point is, if a program is not converting a certain slug of affiliate traffic in a profitable fashion, but then later turns around and buys that same slug of traffic for 2x, 3x, 5x, or 10x times what the traffic was "worth" when it went in via the affiliate program, it strongly suggests they weren't dealing fairly when they were processing the traffic as affiliate traffic.
I made my comment because cams / dating are so easy to promote and tweak that bad conversions is just silly business. As two of the biggest niches around your questions about them being profitable have been answered 1000 times before. You say you can't convert them, I say you're doing it wrong.

For example, putting banners or other similar ridiculousness in sidebars, headers, etc. That is a shit converting strategy from the start. Is your page promoting porn one giant banner farm? Didn't think so, so why not put as much effort into talking up cams as you do whatever else it is you sell?

As for what they spend on ad buys from things you can't convert. Real programs can and will spend 2, 5, 10 times what they plan to make off of a customer in the next year. They don't do this with their affiliate programs because they don't have to, doesn't mean they are overpaying when they buy directly. Also, they might not keep up with the damn ad zones used by thousands of affiliates and just buy traffic to test and judge at a later time.
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