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Old 12-01-2010, 11:07 PM  
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Originally Posted by digitaldivas View Post
Yeah Will, that was the jist of it man, feeling violated at that. And PornBB is a busy friggin board... I don't disagree, I do agree with what the surfer is saying, but I won't pull my recurring options because of that. I do update and people can still feel a connection with a concept. The recurring is there for them. I think most of my peers would agree with this.

However, if some of the top dogs would clean up and take the lead and be MORE PROACTIVE with passes and shit, would sites like pornbb really have any fuel to exist?!?
Other than the .rar sharing that they do?

I don't know, our industry is so fucked up! How long, we as an industry will continue to pay for our sins of the past and fucking over faceless surfers that have ALL revolted en masse? I don't know. People talk about ideas here but until we can cohesively implement them, I don't know. I can only police my content and continue to know my traffic and know my surfer. And chastise them when they do stupid blatant shit like posting passwords...

But it is sad that the little guy now is more proactive than the multimillion dollar porn houses. Just fucking sad imho. We should be looking up to them, not frantically putting out fires that they do not give a shit about anymore...

Hell no, i wouldn't remove recurring either. Recurring is what is keeping a lot of pic and video sites still in business these days. Likely 95% of their revenue is from recurring and 5% new sales if that. And in most cases i bet it is people who have been rebilling for a long time. I bet they could look at their logs and see all of the people paying each month that havent logged in for months.

I don't buy that "rebilling" is a convenience. I think people who say that re kidding themselves or if they really believe it they are in denial. There are ways to allow them to renew each month without them doing anything extra and not being charged if they stop logging in. It is what it is, rebilling is a tactic to get more money out of them, in particular the people who forget to cancel or that we make it too hard to cancel (mainly done in the past).

of course i would still use recurring memberships, i am not stupid. but i think it is smart to see the reality and understand the surfer's point of view. In the past they had to sign up to a site and enter in their cc info to see the full length videos and "good stuff". 99% of the sites out there only offered recurring memberships so the surfer had no choice to sign up to see full length porn even though they hated recurring memberships and potential nightmares from it . Now with free full length porn from people's members area every where, they aren't forced to "take a chance" with recurring membership to see the good stuff and either forget to cancel or not find out how. They are pushed more and more to going to tube sites where it is easy to search and browse, it loads fast, the video quality is good, no credit card or recurring concerns, no downloading (virus) concerns, and best of all its free.
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