Originally Posted by izzynew

That's all true.
But then the surfer gets to the join page, cc at the ready, and his card gets rejected, as does his second card and even his third - all valid cards.
So webmaster ratios of join page hits to sales are getting worse by the week, however good their sales techniques are.

I'm not ready to jump what some call a sinking ship, but we have to be realistic about what's happening with porn sales right now.

edit: I should say attempted porn sales.