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Old 11-26-2010, 06:02 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy View Post
BTW... ad blockers turn off ads on tubes (and all sites who are served from another domain). Educate the surfers to use one and it ads are worthless on tubes.
Good idea. Also explain to surfers why Dating sites are a con, except the free ones.



Here's an undeniable fact about traffic and ratios. So this is sure to get some arguments.

Figures are approx to illustrate a point. And not niche or site specific.

Once all that was need to get a sign up was 50 hits.
Then it needed 100.
Then 500
Now some traffic converts at 1 in 5000.

Up until the last 2 years traffic increased at bigger amounts than the ratios.

And everything looked rosy. People were earning more so ignoring the under lying problem. The more traffic they got the more traffic they needed to achieve the same result. More people were saying no to buying every day. AND the ratios were based on clicks to the sponsors site. If you look at the number of people viewing the promotion site then the figures were increasing worse.

Until Tubes hit the system. Then traffic for most dropped. Also the quality of a lot of the new traffic wasn't as good as in the past.

And still the cry is "More traffic". Even when it's not there. Another solution is needed.

Going micro niche isn't it. It's micro niche because it's small. Few people want it, few people understand it and few people will make money out of it. The more people that go into micro niches, to make money, won't increase the money to be made in micro niches. It will just spread the existing money thinner.

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Originally Posted by SGS
Better idea is just to shoot good porn that people actually want to see (unusual concept right there I know) and then market it properly.
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Originally Posted by Nicky
I'm with you on this one but I don't fully agree on the micro-niche part. You don't even have to go micro but just find a niche that you can twist a bit.
Good idea. But this arm of the porn business has been built on the concept anyone with a digital camera can shoot porn and the budgets required for it don't have to be that large.

To shoot good porn is tough. You need experience, skill, natural talent also helps. And a budget that allows you to show those things. Giving Suze Randall, Viv Thomas or Steve Hicks $500 to shoot a good porn set and video of a solo girl ain't going to to make them able to do it. Plus they can't be bothered to do it either. More money elsewhere. (See sig for a good example.)

Same goes for giving a normal niche a good twist. Rather like Bang Bus did. But again it needs a good budget and the skills I talked about to pull it off. Giving DVTimes a great idea and a good budget won't get you a great porn scene. And filling a site with one idea gets boring after a few days.
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