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VGeorgie · 11-04-2010, 06:18 PM

ASCAP and BMI collect royalties for composers and music publishers (who publish the lyrics and music), not the record labels. The recorded music is a separate held copyright, and is usually owned by a record company or label, for which ASCAP and BMI do not collect copyright payments. This you already know, but I wanted to make a point of it because most of the logjam regarding any song is the recording of it.

ASCAP and BMI collect royalties on performances, including covers by other artists. They have tried to collect songwriter royalties for "preview" stubs on Amazon and iTunes, but that's a non-starter, and is only very recent. There are a lot of Websites that are ASCAP/BMI-compliant, and pay a royalty. The YouTube deal was a fairly narrow use case. In the view of ASCAP, YouTube is like a syndicator, and when a syndicator broadcasts music they pay for each commercial user (pipe Musak to 10 malls: fee X 10). If they demand money from people for embedding YouTube vids with music, they are in fact extending their radio play and syndication business model to the Web. Would they be expected to make an exception for Web-based businesses?

11-04-2010, 06:18 PM
VGeorgie Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 359	ASCAP and BMI collect royalties for composers and music publishers (who publish the lyrics and music), not the record labels. The recorded music is a separate held copyright, and is usually owned by a record company or label, for which ASCAP and BMI do not collect copyright payments. This you already know, but I wanted to make a point of it because most of the logjam regarding any song is the recording of it. ASCAP and BMI collect royalties on performances, including covers by other artists. They have tried to collect songwriter royalties for "preview" stubs on Amazon and iTunes, but that's a non-starter, and is only very recent. There are a lot of Websites that are ASCAP/BMI-compliant, and pay a royalty. The YouTube deal was a fairly narrow use case. In the view of ASCAP, YouTube is like a syndicator, and when a syndicator broadcasts music they pay for each commercial user (pipe Musak to 10 malls: fee X 10). If they demand money from people for embedding YouTube vids with music, they are in fact extending their radio play and syndication business model to the Web. Would they be expected to make an exception for Web-based businesses? Last edited by VGeorgie; 11-04-2010 at 06:28 PM..