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Old 10-22-2010, 04:42 PM  
moeloubani
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Not my responsibility. I didn't cause the famine in whatever country there is famine. I can chose to help (as I have done so in the past), but forcing me to help or deciding it's better that some people don't have babies or anything like that is simply an act of aggression.


Thousands of years of history are filled with people who claimed to know what was best for the people... From faro's to emperors to high chancellors to presidents...


Why is that?



correct. see above.



You're assuming that just because you're being born, you have the right to a piece of the pie. So if I want a Ferrari, they should give me one, right?

As an individual you have the right to use your own body as you see fit. That means you can use your body (your property) to acquire property. You provide services to people and get property in return (selling your time and labor), you can gather wood, fruit,... you can mine metals and minerals (unclaimed resources),....

Being born does not give you a right to a piece of the pie. Being born gives you the right to use your body. If you want a piece of the pie, you need to work for it. If you want a bigger piece of the pie, you can accomplish that by contributing to the community: by offering a product or service people are willing to pay for. It's called the free market.
Yes thousands of years, but if you knew anything about the history of science you would know that it's only recently that people have been making decisions based on observable and measurable facts. Notice how in the past 100 years or so we've advanced so much technologically. Why do you think that is? It's because of SCIENCE. So you can pretend like science is the same as religion but quite simply it is not. It is real.

You still haven't come up with any real plan and other than 'blah blah killing is bad' you haven't come up with any solution for when these children are born.

Should they jail the parents? Take the kids to foster care and now have to feed them, raise them and house them on the government dollar? How long do you think they could do that with a population of 1+billion people?

Be realistic here please, lets grow up and realize that sometimes grownups have to make hard decisions for the good of all the dummies.
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