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Old 10-19-2010, 07:31 AM  
Paul Markham
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Some good points.

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy View Post
While on one hand I agree that everyone just copies whatever is selling at the time (but how many ways can you really fuck someone on video?), on the other hand making something "better" or trying to find a new way to fuck someone is not going to bring in sales.
How many times? After 33 years shooting porn I would say limitless times.

If doing something better or a little different won't bring in sales, then we as an industry are truly fucked. There is no other way to sell a repeat buy product than to find a better way or giving it a new twist.

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It is a different time now, look at the traffic the big tubes have for example. Their quality is SHIT, but they have all the traffic. Why? 1) It's free. 2) Because you don't really need amazing quality to rub one off. Their sheer traffic numbers do not lie and none of us can say their stats don't count. People just don't care like they used to. That plus, "produced" porn sucks, no matter how "good" it may look sitting next to a bunch of other shitty porn. Hence the popularity of true amateur sites, wife sites, GF sites and so on. Though, the bigger companies have murdered many of those niches as well with fake shit, but at the end of the day it doesn't even matter to a guy with his cock in his hand.
If Tubes are pirating the content and it's shit. That proves my point about the content this industry produces is mostly shit.

The only way to compete with them is to go the route of producing something better than the rest and making sure Tubes don't have it. There's no other way I can think of.

Not sure what you mean by produced porn. Yes many producers are simply bad at producing porn, letting models fake it, not knowing angles, how to set it up, etc. If you're talking about the Vivid, Digital Desires end of the business you're letting personal tastes cloud your judgment. They sell enough to be able to fund those productions. As you said the numbers don't lie.

The main attraction today of "Amateur" porn is the participants doing it for real. Any producer who allows porn actors fake it should realise it fucks up his sales.

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Shit, I can beat off to 95% of the TOURS out there. Then add all the free porn on top of that? Yea, I have some pay sites but I have no fucking idea why people still join them other than the fact that what I shoot thankfully most companies can't get their hands on, or at least if they do they ruin it with sites that are not authentic. But even then, while I do my best to get my videos off the free sites and file sharing, all of my competitors remain. Why join my site when you can get the same thing for free?

Honestly, this whole "give as much porn away for free" thing was the dumbest thing the industry has ever done in a long history of doing dumb things. The only thing dumber than that, was trying to compete with that business model and copying them! Well, look at us now.
Yes we give far too much away. It started years ago and has increased ever since. If the only marketing strategy is to give more and more away. It's a slamming indictment on this industry.

And if you shoot what 20 other people shoot, then getting yours off pirating sites isn't going to work. Your content has to be different from the other 20 to make it work.

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Pandora's box has been opened and there is no closing it. The industry will continue to incestuously molest itself until there is nothing left but a few major players who own it all. You can see it in play already, it is now just a matter of how long will it take for everyone else to close up shop. Just imagine 2 - 3 more years of this craziness and where we'll be. DMCA MUST be changed (and fast) or it's curtains for many of us.
Agreed. And most of the industry sits by and watches. Or submits content to Tubes.

I believe soon action will be taken on piracy. Question is will it be effective? Allowing a publisher to hide behind a clause to protect hosting companies is ludicrous.
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