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Old 10-07-2010, 12:04 PM  
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Nobody said anything about carb up? Actually, I believe I was the one that said something about it. You really don't know what you're talking about.
Look douche. "Nobody said..." as in "that was not part of the conversation between me and someone else" which YOU decided to chime into with unrelated remarks. And we were not talking about cyclical diets but the simple issues surrounding process of fat oxidation and fueling the brain while in a state of ketosis.

You apparently were replying to me - not within the context of anything i said, but in the context of something you said which I didn't even read - which made no sense to me being it had nothing to do with our discussion. And you are just regurgitating the usual bodybuilding board bullshit and dismiss some of the worlds foremost authorities on keto diets and cyclic keto diets (the two authors i mentioned specifically in addition to every medical study i could find was Dan Douchaine and Lyle McDonald, both who are experts on the topic) as "bro science". Odd that you are such an expert on the topic and have no idea who these people are.

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Wonderful, someone who manages to regurgitate "bro science" articles is going to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

The part that I bolded, I had to read again because either you are "slow", or you're committing a strawman. The carb up is BECAUSE of depleted glycogen levels, not TO deplete them. At least TRY to sound intelligent.
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That's not why you carb up after two weeks. It takes around that time to get into keto for the first time and deplete your glycogen levels..
No idea what "articles" you are talking about. I was talking about books on the topic by body builders and published studies by physicians and medical researchers.

Again, you said it took 2 weeks to get into ketosis - when it typically takes 48-72hrs. Anyone that has even done it knows that. A prime indication that you are a dipshit largely making things up as you go based off shit you skimmed from a board of overheard in locker rooms. Then you said you needed to Carb up after two weeks (the same point you say you are entering ketosis). Saying that basically, once you are FINALLY in ketosis, you then completely reverse the process and put yourself back to the beginning, requiring another two weeks (according to you) to get back into ketosis. More indication of your ignorance. Furthermore, cyclical diets are most typically done in 7 day cycles, not 14. 3 days to deplete glucose, 3 days to burn fat, 1 day to carb up and repeat. So again, you're lost. And all of that has nothing to do with the brain fog i mentioned that one will usually start to experience in the first two weeks or so due to your brain trying to adjust, down regulate and use a new fuel source. It goes hand in hand with being in ketosis.

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That's ok, it's too easy spotting an idiot, especially an idiot that's challenging your superior expertise.
Yeah... I have an education and you have a "certification" - so who could question you and your 4 week internet course you completed to be able to meet the insurance requirements to train people in a gym? Good god.

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