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Old 10-04-2010, 12:24 PM  
MetaMan
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Originally Posted by TheDoc View Post
I think investing in a person that is willing to grow with you is smart...but that doesn't mean you have to invest $100k a year to make that happen - that isn't very much growing 'with you.' Lots of people will put everything they have into you, learn much more, take other incentives like vacations, insurance, investments, etc... and grow with you for far less money - and they're equally as skilled.

It's nice you found your guy...it's cool he gets paid as much as he does, good job for him.

This is spot on with the topic though, php coders thinking they're real programmers, thus worth more... When the rest of the market is telling you otherwise.

That doesn't mean he isn't worth it to you, whatever you feel he is worth it, makes him worth it. But to think you 'have' to pay that much to get the dedication, skilled, person.. is crazy talk.
IMO $100k isnt even very much to pay a fulltime head programmer. it really is not. i dont see any successful business owner telling me otherwise.

thats the point im saying is $100k isnt really "paying that much".

i agree with some of your points, but the range is indeed hugely debatable. but the range itself ie money always tells the true story.

through his development, through him basically being a fresh mind, through us telling him he will have long term job security, in us telling him he will be paid well if he puts forth effort, it builds a longterm employee.

saving 20k-30k and taking risks is not worth it when you are trying to reach an enterprise scale. especially if you are like me and like to keep a tight knit crew of people. and expect people to be sleeping, breathing and eating the project.

it is not debatable really. i know how to build and run sites. i know what hours have to be put in and the advancement of each and every section. and 100k is extremely low.

Last edited by MetaMan; 10-04-2010 at 12:28 PM..
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