Originally Posted by MetaMan

Im a little lost now honestly.

I dont want to get off topic. But the salary of a programmer does indeed go with the general view of this thread is all i am saying.

it is not credentials it is not long job titles. it is people who are willing to work, do not want handouts and dont expect to be paid for doing nothing. alot of people feel it is their given right to be paid to be alive. and that they should not be working.

then you have people who think by just showing up to work they should be paid.

i dont have time to deal with bullshit anymore. you put up or shut up these days. put up the cash and get someone solid longterm who can always be there. or shut up and keep building small sites and taking risks on programmers who think they know.

when a company makes millions what is 100k? it is an investment in YOUR business to find REAL talent.

"highest degree that was paid in the field". who cares what the "highest degree" is? That is the problem with corporations. they look at credentials that mean nothing when it comes down to the base of all business and that is making money.

this world has become a bunch of phony job titles and opinions. if you think 100k a year invested in a longterm employee who you can trust, knows your system, is always around when you need them etc etc. you are so wrong.

i stopped running lemonade stand businesses. it is time to get real this is a global economy. as you sit around and worry what other people are paying or doing some other guy who only cares about making cash is going to come in and take your market share as you sift through resumes and applications.

i dont care what the market says. or what programmers say they can do. we found a guy who works hard. makes US MONEY. and thats all we care about. all you guys with your degrees and laughable.

we got off our original topic but it ties in.