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Originally Posted by TheDoc
If Salary doesn't indicate the expertise then it for sure indicate the stupidity of the company that hired them. We're not talking $10k a year extra, this would be a $30k-$60k a year difference.
I've never paid a php programmer a $100k a year, I've never had a php coder even ask for that much, or even close to it. Even the top skilled guys, multiple languages, administrators as well don't ask for $100k a year.
We can find them being paid all over, under and over paid, etc.. but not by 100% of the money they should earn.
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I'm paid 6 figures a year... I have over 11 years of experience developing in PHP. I also actively write in RoR, Erlang, C/C++, and Perl.
Doc you have no clue what you're talking about. Outside the adult industry there are a slew of PHP devs that break the six figure mark.
The language has no bearing on the capabilities of a developer. The best example came from someone in this thread making the comparison to Photoshop... cause I've seen a whole lot of nasty ass design out there ;)
In fact, I would argue that developers who don't use PHP for web development are the poor ones... There is no language / web server pairing in existence which can handle as many requests per second as PHP Fast-cgi over nginx; combined with the fact that the tech/software is open source... that translates to direct cost savings when compared to any other language / server pairing. Maybe not a big deal if you run a little dinky three box site but when you talk scaling to deployments of over a hundred machines... you see where I'm going...
To me it's all about efficiency. Sure, I love Rails' beautiful syntax combined with Ruby's true OO language structure but that doesn't mean it's going to save me development time, reduce overhead, or make the system more maintainable. Good, clean code following best practices is what brings the aforementioned things to fruition and those things can all be achieved in PHP.
So don't jump on the PHP bashing bandwagon unless you know your shit and you're ready to defend your argument. Some of the largest websites in the world run PHP and for a damned good reason...