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Originally Posted by PornMD
An interesting point came up in Paxum's latest thread where they excitedly told us all that the cards that would cost us $45 to get are ready to be sent to us (like OMG, sooo exciting!!!1). I got an early joke in, half-joke half-truth given the absurdity of these vulture companies capitalizing on people's Epass woes: "Can you send them to us with money already on them? That would REALLY show your confidence." The Paxum employee laughed it off.
Then wot brought up a great point and one all these companies, especially the brand new ones, should consider:
Seriously - yes people need a new online payment option and because of that, many will just start diving in with one or more of the 5+ options now staring us in the face. Consider this though:
- Many people just got fucked by Epass...some of them big time.
- For many of these places, we need to pay out money to even get the functionality we want (i.e. $45 for Paxum's card)
- Many of these new options are exactly that - NEW. No history to judge by, nothing.
- Some of these new options look/smell/taste/feel very much like Epass, which means somewhere down the line they, their bank, or their card provider could fuck all of us. None of them are even saying why that would never happen with them, and that would be one of the very FIRST things I would tell people - what things are put into place to prevent an Epass situation from occurring.
- Banks like Chase give money for people to start accounts there, poker sites match deposits and make money on the rake (fees) afterwards, etc. Why isn't a single one of these new places doing this to get business? Thus far it's been 100% spamming the boards to get new business, and doing so after most of us just got fucked by our last main option. Simply vultures.
It doesn't have to be giving us money even...how about something like waiving fees for the first 90 days including new card fees? Or something...DO something FOR us so that we choose you - don't just blast "pick me! pick me!" at us all day long. It's working on some people but isn't going to work on most.
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sorry to post the explanation on two threads but since it was asked twice please bear with me till I find my way around GFY.
How casinos could match your deposit is because you will eventually play that money there and will loose it. Statistically the overwhelming majority will play till they loos everything or there are some find print that says you have to play the free money given several times over before withdrawing it making sure you dont see any money. At Paxum we believe we should be transparent and if we do some promotion we will not make 100 fine prints to laugh at users and just bullshit them. If we give it away we have to give as I explained in my post close to $100 per account to pay for the expenses and those $100 will not be made back before years and years. everybody is used to very low fees and trust us that we make pennies on some transactions and on other transactions we eat up the fees to make it bearable for cardholders. We simply cannot make back $100 from fees and giving that away to people that might abuse it and bring all their friends and family mmebers in just to get $20 free is simply not worth unless the fraud is managed in perfect way. And if the fraud is manage too well that always comes with complains and abuses where real people will be denied their fair chance and again we are back to square one. We will consider the idea and I thank you and the rest for the suggestion but thats not a decision that can be taken in one day and not by myself alone.