Bill Waggoner scammed NO ONE! This complainer is a Fruit-Loop de Luxe who sent Bill what are obviously HARVESTED lists, telling him that those lists were CAN-SPAM compliant, which of course, they were not. He sent a sample of the lists to me and it was very apparent that the lists were harvested using one harvester or the next and he tried to tell me that because there were IPs connected with each address that the lists were opt-in.
SALLY CALLS "SHENNANIGANS!"
This poor fool offered me a list of 195,000 harvested email addresses for TWENTY-FIVE-THOUSAND-DOLLARS!
WOO FUCKING HOO!
Yes, I have the AIM chat and have posted it below!
Says he can get anything.
I'll just betcha he can, including a long-term stay at the Graybar Hotel if you use his lists.
Never fuck with my friends because that is the same thing as fucking with me and only Mr. Sally Rand and the other MS Sally Rand get to do that.
Our AIM chat:
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[email protected] is available 8:01 am
here 19h and 0m ago
B D 8:00 am
(8:01:54 AM): hello
Corpstopcare 8:02 am
(8:02:01 AM): Whatup?
[email protected] 8:02 am
(8:02:23 AM): so where you from
[email protected] 8:02 am
(8:02:30 AM): did you add me?
Corpstopcare 8:02 am
(8:02:46 AM): Yes, I think so. AIM gets goofy sometimes.
[email protected] 8:03 am
(8:03:02 AM): what you looking for
Corpstopcare 8:03 am
(8:03:28 AM): In terms of waht?
(8:03:38 AM): Where you from?
(8:03:56 AM): GFY?
[email protected] 8:04 am
(8:04:24 AM): well i have opt-in email lists
Corpstopcare 8:04 am
(8:04:42 AM): With timestamps, etc.?
[email protected] 8:04 am
(8:04:51 AM): yep
Corpstopcare 8:05 am
(8:05:04 AM): Already cleaned, etc.?
[email protected] 8:05 am
(8:05:52 AM): try that
(8:05:55 AM): accept
Corpstopcare 8:06 am
(8:06:33 AM): Uh, no, no one connects to my computer, thank you. I might take a look at your lists in a diffrent manner though sometime.
[email protected] 8:06 am
(Short email file he sent me redacted for the privacy of the owners but they were all from newsaper forum sites. If ADMIN or MODS want the list, I will provide it on request but trust me, this is a harvested list!)
[email protected] 8:06 am
(8:06:44 AM): see that?
(8:07:30 AM): have 195,000 records intotal of those
Corpstopcare 8:07 am
(8:07:33 AM): These addys look like lists from forums.
[email protected] 8:08 am
(8:08:01 AM): i can get model webcam database :-)
(8:08:08 AM): 125,000 records
(8:08:17 AM): 8-)
Corpstopcare 8:09 am
(8:09:21 AM): Now that could get interesting but I am concnerned as to how such a list was obtained in terms of being able to justify the mailing if asked by the right, or wrong people.
[email protected] 8:09 am
(8:09:46 AM): dude i can acquire 'anything'
Corpstopcare 8:10 am
(8:10:03 AM): Got it.
(8:10:32 AM): Where you based out of if I might ask?
[email protected] 8:11 am
(8:11:00 AM): uk
Corpstopcare 8:11 am
(8:11:29 AM): OK, cool. How updated and recent are these lists and what kind of money are we talking?
[email protected] 8:12 am
(8:12:30 AM): there new
(8:12:40 AM): which one do you wanna buy
Corpstopcare 8:13 am
(8:13:04 AM): Let's talk about the cam girls list.
[email protected] 8:13 am
(8:13:46 AM): whats your budget
Corpstopcare 8:14 am
(8:14:02 AM): Do you do mailings also?
[email protected] 8:14 am
(8:14:25 AM): just acquire & sell opt-in lists
Corpstopcare 8:14 am
(8:14:49 AM): OK, so what is the cost of the cam list?
[email protected] 8:15 am
(8:15:18 AM): depends
(8:15:23 AM): whats your budget
Corpstopcare 8:15 am
(8:15:46 AM): If you have something for sale, you know what you want for it, I would think.
[email protected] 8:16 am
(8:16:29 AM): you can have it for $25k
(8:17:33 AM): i see cam companys flying with this biz
[email protected] 8:17 am
(8:17:55 AM): making alot of money i should say
Corpstopcare 8:18 am
(8:18:18 AM): So who takes the heat when the cam company figures out that their list is being used?
[email protected] 8:18 am
(8:18:53 AM): its about money at the end of the day
Corpstopcare 8:19 am
(8:19:39 AM): And in this business at the end of the day, bond money and attorney's fees can be required, which is why I asked the question.
[email protected] 8:20 am
(8:20:08 AM): you buy or you dont buy
(8:20:22 AM): its just a cam list
Corpstopcare 8:20 am
(8:20:37 AM): OK. Thanks for the offer but I think I'll pass. Perhaps lataer.
[email protected] 8:20 am
(8:20:51 AM): ok might aswell delete it then, :-)
(8:21:03 AM): anything else you need
(8:21:05 AM): name it
Corpstopcare 8:21 am
(8:21:21 AM): OK, thanks, we might hook up again later.
[email protected] 8:21 am
(8:21:27 AM): my clique will get it
Corpstopcare 8:21 am
(8:21:50 AM): Thanks! I'll let you know for sure.
[email protected] 8:21 am
(8:21:53 AM): k
[email protected] 8:22 am
(8:22:12 AM): talking of bond money
(8:22:19 AM): i watched that Jackie Brown
(8:22:22 AM): movie
(8:22:26 AM): really good
Corpstopcare 8:22 am
(8:22:35 AM): Great flick! I love it!
[email protected] 8:22 am
(8:22:59 AM): money always gets you out of shit
(8:23:08 AM): deep shit
Corpstopcare 8:23 am
(8:23:21 AM): If you have enough of it. Short money or scared money will sink you.
[email protected] 8:23 am
(8:23:59 AM): money rules
(8:24:03 AM): simples
(8:24:05 AM): :-)
Corpstopcare 8:24 am
(8:24:18 AM): Yep.
[email protected] 8:25 am
(8:25:53 AM): you know Bill waggoner?
Corpstopcare 8:26 am
(8:26:55 AM): Yep.
[email protected] 8:27 am
(8:27:03 AM): hes a little shit that bloke
(8:27:09 AM): owes me money big time
Corpstopcare 8:27 am
(8:27:15 AM): No shit?
(8:27:25 AM): You the guy he owes for lists?
[email protected] 8:27 am
(8:27:50 AM): the bullshit & lies is funny
(8:28:00 AM): week after week
Corpstopcare 8:28 am
(8:28:09 AM): He can be quite a bullshitter.
(8:28:34 AM): Haven't talked to him for a while but I could.
Corpstopcare 8:28 am
(8:28:55 AM): What's the deal?
[email protected] 8:29 am
(8:29:01 AM): for the last 6 weeks hes been sending the same wire
(8:29:10 AM): deal is he owes me $12,500
Corpstopcare 8:29 am
(8:29:18 AM): You know for sure he is sending?
[email protected] 8:29 am
(8:29:38 AM): hes been sending for the last 2 months
(8:29:47 AM): utter BS
(8:29:55 AM): he didnt send shit
Corpstopcare 8:31 am
(8:31:32 AM): It really surprises me that he would do that because he has always been honest with me and some guys and gals I know but anyone can go bad I guess.
[email protected] 8:31 am
(8:31:46 AM): his uncle stole money from him
(8:31:49 AM): alot
Corpstopcare 8:31 am
(8:31:49 AM): He ought to have that list worn out by now!
[email protected] 8:32 am
(8:32:36 AM): yes i think you should contact him
Corpstopcare 8:32 am
(8:32:40 AM): Yeah, family will fuck you first.
(8:33:17 AM): OK, he's two hours behind me so he's not even thinking of getting out of bed yet.
[email protected] 8:35 am
(8:35:14 AM): he should hurry up
(8:35:27 AM): cause im gonna pull out the jewish card
Corpstopcare 8:35 am
(8:35:50 AM): How you mean?
[email protected] 8:36 am
(8:36:01 AM): create some problems
(8:36:05 AM): :-)
Corpstopcare 8:36 am
(8:36:18 AM): Why do you call it the Jewish card?
[email protected] 8:36 am
(8:36:25 AM): i dont want to
(8:36:40 AM): cause there jewish
(8:36:49 AM): its the 'help'
Corpstopcare 8:37 am
(8:37:11 AM): LOL! Like ex-Mossad?
[email protected] 8:37 am
(8:37:16 AM): cough
(8:37:18 AM): cough
(8:37:26 AM): maybe
(8:37:28 AM): :-)
Corpstopcare 8:37 am
(8:37:48 AM): Now that would most likely cost far more than what you claim to have lost, I think.
(8:38:06 AM): Shit, the plane tickets alone!
[email protected] 8:38 am.
Continued in the next reply post!
Thanks for looking!
Sally.