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a single commercial jet liner can be flown like a pro pilot in an F-18 with minimal training from crop dusting school in Florida - Yes
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sorry, i don't buy it just because you say it's possible. and even if it is theoretically possible, the odds are a bit steep.
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we know a single commercial jet liner can bring down a skyscraper - Yes
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i was being facetious.
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we know commercial jet liner and all its passengers can turn to vapor and vanish - Yes. We watched that video of a plane hitting a concrete wall, remember?
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still a test plane, not a commercial jet, no humans on board, not as much fuel, not traveling as fast as a jet, it was hitting a test wall, not a building or the ground, and there were large visible chunks of debris from the crashed test plane in the very video you're referencing which in combination with every other variable difference negates the whole reference to begin with.
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we know commercial jet liner's can fit into 20 - 30ish foot wide holes Maybe. But we know that big planes and vaporize when hitting strong concrete buildings.
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yes... lol
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we know the earth can swallow an entire commercial jet liner with just a puff a smoke - Sort of. We know that when a plane crashes head first into the ground it makes a big hole, lots of the plane gets embedded deep underground, and the rest gets scattered around a huge area.
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just curious, since the plane and all the passengers were "embedded" in the earth, did they ever dig them out?
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we know the pentagon can swallow an entire commercial jet liner whole -Yes. The Pentagon is a huge building. If a jet airplane hits it at 500 mph it will vaporize and the rest will be swallowed up into the building. Remember the pictures of the huge jet engine?
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i remember pics of a small one.
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we know buildings collapse in free fall from some fire and some junk being thrown against it.No. We know that some buildings fall after going through two earthquakes, a huge fire, hundreds of tons of debris falling on it, and and having a portion of it's infrastruture destroyed.
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now there were earthquakes too? at the same time? what did the USGS record them as based on the Richter magnitude scale?
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we know that an entire group of passengers faced with imminent death are too scared of a couple of guys with box cutters to do anything but accept their fate - No. In the case of Flight 93 they tried to over take them.
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were you on board? or are you just repeating the story you've been told?
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we know passports are impervious to flame and heat so hot that it's capable of melting steel girders into puddles - Not really. We know that billions of pieces of paper fell from the WTC towers as the airplanes hit. Keep in mind both WTC towers were enclosed, meaning you couldn't open up windows. You suddenly punch huge holes in the walls everything gets sucked up. You know that though, because you saw the videos.
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the passport should have been inside the jet that was vaporized. not an office. if the jet and everything in it was vaporized, how did the passport end up on the street undamaged? were the jet windows open too?
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we know the Patriot Act passed into law with as much resistance as a falling 9/11 skyscraper - Seems so.
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we know the gov has been pushing Real ID for years - I have no idea. But I still only have my state DL.
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well they have, and still are.
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we know we invaded two countries using 9/11 as the reason - No, we invaded one country - Afghanistan - which the US had zero interest in Afghanistan. Iraq was because of the 1991 invsaion of Kuwait.
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interesting... so we're still spending billions on a war with a country we have zero interest in? who's running this show?
what does 1991 or Kuwait have to do with invading Iraq in this millenium? Fact: 9/11 was the original "reason" for going to Iraq in 2003, and when that failed miserably they created "WMDs". When that failed miserably, they just said fuck it, called it "liberation" and quit giving reasons.
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we know Homeland Security & the TSA were installed using 9/11 as the reason I thought you were wrong here, but your right about the TSA. It was in fact created after 9/11 in direct response to 9/11. But.. What does that have to do with anything? We had security people in place, but they were locally controlled, underfunded, and lacked any real training.
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lol, okay Roc. if they make you feel warm and secure, then they've succeeded with you. the TSA & Homeland Security do not give me warm fuzzies.
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I really hope I cleared up some of these items for you here.
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not really.
