Originally Posted by Rochard

The passport thing is "odd". I'll give that one to you. I am at a loss to explain how a passport manged to get through the plane the crash and land on the street without being destroyed. But I guess anything is possible.

The rest of you what you just said..

- NORAD runs planes outwards looking for military bombers, not inward at civilian flights.
- What breakdown of the FAA? Once they figured out what happened they shut down all flights. A lot of confusion, but no breakdown. Not much the FAA could have one one these flights were up in the air.
- Non reaction by Bush? What is he supposed to do? Run around like his head cut off like a chicken in front of school kids? he did exactly what he needed to do at that moment.
- We already covered the melted steel. It didn't melt, but was warped.
- Missing planes? What missing planes? You mean the ones that vaprozied? We covered this also and showed you a video of it.
- There was an investigation. A huge one. It took years. They produced books about it.
- Buildings didn't fall for no reason. They fell because they were hit by airplanes. We covered this.
- The crime scene wasn't wiped out - it was removed to a secure location where they went through it piece by piece. They did this in NJ.
- The hijackers were clearly trained to be commandos. And it's not like it takes much skill to beat someone up or intimidate someone with a knife.
- The hijackers were horrible pilots. But you give me a short amount of time in a flight sim and I'm pretty confident I can find a tall building to hit.

A lot of things happened this day. It's like a car accident witnessed by ten difficult people all from different viewpoints - Out of the ten people who saw it, you'll come up with six different stories about what happened.

Your trying to tell me that our government planned this and made it happen. And I'm telling you it would have taken hundreds of people to make this happen, all of which would have left a huge trail of evidence. Instead you point out that there is no planes at the crash scene when everyone in the world saw it happen on live TV.

You tell us that fire can't bring down a tower like this, and I'm telling you when a building takes a hit like that, looses a percentage of it's infrastructure, and then is further weakened by fire... I didn't say anything melting steel. It didn't need to melt.

You pull statements out of your ass saying "the buildings were designed to withstand the impact of a plane crash" but truthfully it wasn't, being as the head designer himself released a statement saying he "considered it" but it was never official, and even so, what he "briefly considered" was for a 707 at a slow speed lost looking for an airport and not a 767 flying into the building at top speed - staggering differences. At this point your just making shit up and accepting it as fact.

You said there was "no plane debris" from flight 93 in PA, and a quick search shows me pictures. Same thing with the Pentagon. Where do you get this information from because when a simple search pulls up pictures from the crash scene with proof your wrong, someone isn't doing their homework or is making stuff up.

Then at the end of the day you have to factor in motive. What fucking motive did anyone in the US have to want to go into Afghanistan? Some pipeline that would have been much easier to build without it being in a warzone? That's just stupid.

Then.... You have the guilty party saying "Yep, we did it" from their caves.