Originally Posted by Bill8

progressive means something different these days.

but I'm way fuckin worse than progressive. I also believe in the scientific method, rationality, and even some parts of secular humanism.

technically I'm a green techno libertarian, registered libertarian for many years, something that is so far beyond your ken that I may as well be an alien from another star system as far as you could ever tell.

but I can be lumped in the progressive movement, yes. I believe human progress is possible, and I don't believe in corporatist rule.

whereas, as far as I can tell, you have no discernable personal political philosophy. you think you are conservative I imagine, but I think you are just a corporatist who says whatever the corporations tell you to say.

we do both despise obama, you for imaginary bagger reasons, I because he's also a corporatist, just like you are.

i do sincerely hope your kind wins in november and 2012. we americans deserve your kind of misrule.

I hope your kind is clever enough to actually get Paul on the ballot - but you won't, because the corporations own the bagpublicans even more than they own the spineless dems.

so you will run romney or some other archetypal corporate baglicker. or beck/palin. please, let it be beck/palin, we americans deserve it.