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what so we can get a $41k electric car? Investing it is fine, but if you read how much was spent and what we got out of it, it was done poorly
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Roughly 10,000 green technologies in America alone, fastest growing technology, investments, etc. Green schools make more money than non-green schools. Green houses use less resources and can now cost less money. This isn't one thing or one industry or one technology, it's 10,000's of them.
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Your point was we're in a recession and can't pay for it now. I pointed out we aren't paying for it. And of course it's cost money, healthcare costs this Country billions every year. But it isn't like we're paying for it by taking out more Loans.
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they got bail out, what they are called is doesn't matter, they should have been included
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Well, to be fair it wasn't Obama that bailed them out. And GM didn't get the bank rules either, probably because they aren't a bank. And they all got some regulations, loan %'s, things they can/can't collect.
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Still waiting for Obama to do anything about reform? While the ICE agents are turning illegal aliens loose? Yeah, Obama just wants to make them all citizens and not fix anything
Even Hilary said it needed to be redone during her campaign
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And so has Obama...and no I'm not waiting, I don't expect him to do it this term. ICE has deported more illegals so far this year than under any other President in history.
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Yes he does, Clinton closed all sorts of bases, as for the rest, he's a fucking politician, he says a lot of things, nothing gets done
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Congress reduced the number of military personal, allowing them to close many supply bases. The money was put into military research.
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What over site? When someone wants to pass a bill, they better prove it's going to benefit the American people
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You said... "And anytime any money is spent on any project, someone needs to make sure it's worth it"
That means more Gov growth..more over site.
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LOL, Healthcare didn't pass on it's own merits, lots of pork on that baby
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I thought you meant get it passed... Very few things pass on it's own merits, everyone puts in something or they wont sign it. It's not like Obama adds in the pork, congressmen, etc do.
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if enough people push it, yes it can
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People can push all day, they haven't voted for what the people wanted in 30 years, it isn't going to start now.
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that's what the politicians want you to believe, but it's not true
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I'm not listening to the politicians. Most of what you listed wouldn't help at all simply because the things you listed aren't one way doors of death as you think they are.