[QUOTE=harvey;17441858]I agree with some and STRONGLY disagree with some of your points
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I gotta assume you're kidding here, so won't elaborate on the subject
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The general point I was making is the level of consumption. Logically if you had one hot video and it got you off you should never need another but that isn't they way we tick. I was setting up that consumer will eventually get bored of the 99 and want a peek at what they can't have. As a "FACT" I can see how it looks like a joke. I am sure you get what I mean in general.
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to some extent. It will always depend on quality, niche and some "wow" factor. "Ultra tech" people usually won't pay much for porn, furthermore, people paying will be people that want some specific content or experience delivered in an easy, non nonsense way
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I agree niche is where it is at.
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I agree with this. I know there are some hardcore fans of cams, but I really don't get the point of it.
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Funny how that goes, I see how I
should like it, but just don't. Obviously many do though
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Like Roald said, it's not dead. But the paysite model AS WE KNOW IT is dying for sure.
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Agreed, I liked what he said and would say that the old paysite model is dead. However I would never consider sites full of purchased over exposed crap a paysite. When I say the paysite is not dead I look at paysites such as the one I run with daily quality exclusive content. So we are actually on the same page here.
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if you're talking about Xsales, It will never die, there will always be shady people. Now, if we're talking on profit optimization and additional revenue, then adult industry didn't even start, and it will be key for the survival of many companies. Then again, nobody even tried to start
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I agree Xsells will never die, however many companies have obviously lost their ability to profit off of the quality of their site so I think think they are severly diminished amongst what were considered reputable companies. As far as profit optimization I agree with your take there.
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as a matter of fact I explained this like 2 years ago. However, what I didn't figure at that time (and now I do) is that what we're discussing is just the tip of the iceberg. Nowadays, if I had such traffic sources I'd rack millions a month by doing just a slight minor change in their business model. I've reasons to believe those tubes are already making the change to that next step
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I run a tube site using mostly my own content with some affiliate stuff mixed in where as the first ten videos a month are free and then it is $9.95 per month which includes access to all my sites. It works well and I would love to see every tube do the same.
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this deserves a pretty long discussion on its own since there are many variables and scenarios, but based on they way you're describing it, yeah, I gotta agree in general
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Agreed
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Agreed 100%. I told people about that more than a year ago, and what would be happening and why would it happen, and while some people agreed or added some very good insight to that view, many people laughed. Guess they're still wondering what happened to their checks.
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Agreed
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strongly disagree. you're confusing media formats with delivery technology. I certainly don't get the reason why to navigate using a cell phone, but, objectively speaking, there's no doubt mobile is having a blat and only increasing. Furthermore, for many people, especially older men, 3D is frankly annoying. Add to that the inconvenience of 3d glasses, the crappy 3D content most studios will launch only because it's "the new wave" (many studios can't shoot decent 2D content, why would they do it better in 3D?) and sincerely I can't even see how can you compare convenience to inconvenience and lack of quality
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My thought process is admittedly half backed here. If I can change that I would say
OPINION: if I had $100k to invest in either a company bringing adult to the phone or a higher quality medium to the PC and TV in the form of 3D I would choose the later.
I also agree that most 3D is pretty annoying, however give it a few years and some upgrades and it will be OK. Ironically some of the best I have seen is just a girl by herself with the right lighting. Keep it simple. It had its moments.
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ANyway, good discussion, but IMHO some of your facts are the exact opposite to reality 
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Thanks, I don't think our thoughts are that far off, I just think you clarified some missed details.
If there is any benefit to the biz tanking it is the quality of discussion lately. There is are really bright people here.