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Old 08-10-2010, 11:19 AM  
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Originally Posted by wig View Post
I would say almost 30 years, hence the Volker comment.
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I view deflation as simply the decrease in the price level of goods and services.
There are 2 different ways to view it, that's one way. The problem with that way is that it is very black and white, and doesn't take the middle ground(disinflation) into consideration.


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I don't know where you come up with the dollar debasement starting when Obama became president stuff. I think that is just your strong political ideology run amok. I used to think you were just trolling, but maybe you really believe it.
Read carefully what I wrote. I didn't ever state that it started with Obama, I said it became crazy with Obama.

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The fact is the dollar index was at 125 in June 2001. It collapsed to 74 by March of 2008 (it is now 81.39/dxu10). Gold was under $300 in 2000 and got as high as $1075 in 2008 (it is now 1199/gcz10).

The DJIA peaked in October 2007 at 14,198. By the end of 2008, it was already down 50%. The beginning of the bailouts were already started. The housing bubble had already burst.
You should be looking at it from the "real" perspective, not nominal.

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I'm not looking for a scapegoat to explain the devaluation of the dollar or slide in equities or home prices or whatever that occurred during the last decade. I just want to be on the right side of the markets.
The scapegoat is usually the FED, whoever lets the fed run things, and the printing press.

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But, if I was wanting to place blame, why would I point the finger at Obama and not equally (or more so) at Bush given the above chronology?
Because while Bush fucked up, Obama managed to create a new level of fail within 2 years.


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Of course they are not screaming for deflationary measures. They are, however, inadvertently promoting certain actions that are deflationary in the short run. These are the austerity measures I cited as an example.
I suppose that's one way to look at it then.
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