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Originally Posted by GNDnet
Wow this has gotten blown out of proportion so bad it's stupid.
Dramalama says hello by the way.
Read the emails above, we asked that things be removed from cliphunter as it was stolen material. Not unlike anyone else.
Your guy emails back telling me how it works, or rather, how he sees it. More or less, trying to justify the theft of content. We had no interest in suing anyone, but it's a DMCA, when you don't remove the content as you're asked, don't you expect the company to say hey, we're going to look at legal options or contacting your host or whatever if you don't remove our content? It was never a threat, it was if you don't remove our content, we'll look at other options to have it removed, that wasn't a threat, that was how DMCA's work. If the site doesn't remove, you take action.
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Originally Posted by BryciSupport
You have several images of ours on your server. We understand you grab
feeds from other sites, but that won't keep your out of the court
room. We can still sue you for theft and copyright infringement all
the same, ask a lawyer, we have.
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Originally Posted by GNDnet
We NEVER had issue with Pichunter. We had issue with Cliphunter. We asked that our things be removed, your guy started in about Pichunter, why? Not sure exactly, we never had issues with them or the affiliates using PicHunter.
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Pic Hunter and Clip Hunter are the same database from the krawl newtork.
Pichunter galleries appear on cliphunter, cliphunter streams appear on pichunter. The sites are the same database, with different designs.
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Originally Posted by GNDnet
Your guy made this about Pichunter and the affiliates. Your guy said you'd decide to remove images from Pichunter. This all stemmed because you had our stolen videos on cliphunter and your guy wanted to explain that I had to allow this and adapt, this is how it works etc.
I disagreed and he then said fine, we're dropping you from PH.
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We've had issue with other people over their "brand" terms. ATK, Anilos, and others have been fairly silly regarding their "terms" of content usage. Usually the issue is over the restriction of "thumbnails" of their content on pages that do not link to them exclusively. Such as on a category page, or search. We have removed their content until they issue specific licenses or exceptions to us in writing. If you take your content rights that seriously, we can't afford to display a "thumbnail" or "cache" any of your images when you get ridiculous with take down notices that are demanded without respect to reason.
Complaints are processed as a matter of routine. Threats to sue, references to imminent legal action and furthermore are presented to the legal team immediately, and our response to the incident is escalated.
In this case, we were advised to remove all of your images as soon as possible to prevent further potential liability. We're not sure which submitters are or are not following your terms exactly, so we must prohibit them from exposing us to further liability indirectly.
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Originally Posted by GNDnet
Drama all over twitter. You try and contact Bryci so you can clear this up, she tells you to email [email protected] and do you? Did you email to clear this up as you requested?
No, instead spam your drama all over twitter and now here, and you seem to think you're professional? Really? |
Actually I @Replied you days ago asking for an ICQ, or other IM service contact so we could have a conversation, rather than a series of "statements" via e-mail. My request went without response. Also, e-mail only support is fairly shitty, but whatever.
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Originally Posted by GNDnet
it's clear you're trying to hurt our program, which is fine and well. Affiliates that promote us are doing great. Pichunter is still fine by us, again, it was only after YOUR GUY said you were removing our content that we said great, remove our content.
Cliphunter though, is still not allowed to steal our content.
Not sure why this became GFY drama but perhaps that's how you run your company.
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At no point did we steal your content. Click the unhappy face on any page of cliphunter, and report content as "copyright infringement". And it would be automatically removed within 10 minutes. Furthermore, at no point were anything other than thumbnails stored on pichunter or cliphunter servers. They are search based displays of other sites that have material. If they remove, we do not have a copy. Your issue is with them, or the user that uploaded to them, not us.
At anypoint when people threaten legal action, we are cautious. RK, Brazzers, Adult Friend Finder, and others have been embattled in court actions recently. Courtrooms are costly and hinder progress, we avoid them at all costs.
Removing content is something we did for you immediately on first contact, and do routinely without verification or legal DMCA request for users and companies routinely, along with auto removal tools on the public site. You however threatened to "Show us how" whatever you were. So, we continued removal to make you happier.
Quote Bryci, "@PichunterDotCom ban away sweetie ;)"
So, we're notifying our submitters of a change of Rules, and informing them why we are disabling their galleries so that they don't think that we are mad at them. It is not uncommon for our company to make announcements on this board regarding changes to our rules.