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J-SiN · 07-09-2010, 10:18 PM

Jay,

I appreciate your situation but I think you are letting most of the show organizers off too lightly.

Like you say, attendees may get out of it what they put in to it, but ultimately these shows are supposed to be money making endeavors for the show promoters. Thus the organizers should be putting enough effort into organizing and executing on their events to make it viable and obvious for attendees to participate (and attend).

Today it seems like Tom is the only one that gives a shit at AVN about putting in the hard work to produce a show which is best in class; even still everything is a scramble and a last minute affair- not exactly a sign of a well organized event.

Xbiz seems like it is trying to change things up but it has been hit or miss the last couple of shows; Yes, I honestly feel Alec and team are trying, but maybe they just need to wear the 'Think Different' hat a bit more during their show planning meetings.

Barcelona and Qwebec are both shows which have a lot of excitement and optimism around them, and I think ultimately have the best potential to really shake up the same-ol formula. Being the best non-US webmaster shows is not going to be a label which lasts forever; however the personalities behind these shows seem to have much more enthusiasm and drive to produce a worth while and different type of event. So if anything pushes the webmaster show status quo, I would expect it from these two...

As far as the panels go, having moderated and spoken on a handful over the last few years, the key here is to pick the right (niche) topics and fill it with true industry (or non-industry) experts, not a show sponsor or someone else that is owed a favor by the show organizer. Sure this makes the draw of being a show sponsor less lucrative, but the key to having seminars and panel interviews which are well respected (and well attended) is to do them "right"... or to not do them at all. Seriously... no one said you had to have panels as a part of your show. So if you are not going to put the effort into making them worthwhile to attend, and a cornerstone for the show, then use your limited resources some place else.

Also, having recorded several of the seminars and panels over the last 2 years (to broadcast on the SiN2.0 Adult Webmaster Podcast) we usually end up editing out 30-50% of the recording for content reasons. Hell, we could broadcast the entire recording since we have no hard time limit on the length of our episodes, but we honestly feel it would be a disservice since there is only good, semi-useful content in half to two-thirds of what we have recorded. Sure, even the best panel in the world wouldn't be great content, 100% of the time, but with the right moderator and the right speakers, and the right topic, we would surely feel compelled to broadcast most of that hour long recording.

07-09-2010, 10:18 PM
J-SiN Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 41	Jay, I appreciate your situation but I think you are letting most of the show organizers off too lightly. Like you say, attendees may get out of it what they put in to it, but ultimately these shows are supposed to be money making endeavors for the show promoters. Thus the organizers should be putting enough effort into organizing and executing on their events to make it viable and obvious for attendees to participate (and attend). Today it seems like Tom is the only one that gives a shit at AVN about putting in the hard work to produce a show which is best in class; even still everything is a scramble and a last minute affair- not exactly a sign of a well organized event. Xbiz seems like it is trying to change things up but it has been hit or miss the last couple of shows; Yes, I honestly feel Alec and team are trying, but maybe they just need to wear the 'Think Different' hat a bit more during their show planning meetings. Barcelona and Qwebec are both shows which have a lot of excitement and optimism around them, and I think ultimately have the best potential to really shake up the same-ol formula. Being the best non-US webmaster shows is not going to be a label which lasts forever; however the personalities behind these shows seem to have much more enthusiasm and drive to produce a worth while and different type of event. So if anything pushes the webmaster show status quo, I would expect it from these two... As far as the panels go, having moderated and spoken on a handful over the last few years, the key here is to pick the right (niche) topics and fill it with true industry (or non-industry) experts, not a show sponsor or someone else that is owed a favor by the show organizer. Sure this makes the draw of being a show sponsor less lucrative, but the key to having seminars and panel interviews which are well respected (and well attended) is to do them "right"... or to not do them at all. Seriously... no one said you had to have panels as a part of your show. So if you are not going to put the effort into making them worthwhile to attend, and a cornerstone for the show, then use your limited resources some place else. Also, having recorded several of the seminars and panels over the last 2 years (to broadcast on the SiN2.0 Adult Webmaster Podcast) we usually end up editing out 30-50% of the recording for content reasons. Hell, we could broadcast the entire recording since we have no hard time limit on the length of our episodes, but we honestly feel it would be a disservice since there is only good, semi-useful content in half to two-thirds of what we have recorded. Sure, even the best panel in the world wouldn't be great content, 100% of the time, but with the right moderator and the right speakers, and the right topic, we would surely feel compelled to broadcast most of that hour long recording. __________________ Host of the SiN2.0 Adult Webmaster Podcast Last edited by J-SiN; 07-09-2010 at 10:23 PM..