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Originally Posted by kane
I'm not interested in getting into a debate about racial tensions, black panthers or whether or not the Tea Party is racists.
Here is what will happen:
Most Tea Party members are republicans. They admit it. They will vote republican. The republicans will gain seats in the house and senate. Historically speaking the party that wins the white house then loses an average of 28 seats in the house and 4 seats in the senate in the follow mid-term election. I think they will lose more than that in the house and will probably lose control of the house. I don't think the democrats will lose control of the senate, but I think it will be close and they will end up with just a 2 -4 seat majority.
What will this change? Will the republicans suddenly force the president to stop spending? Maybe. But they themselves have always spent money too so it isn't like they are suddenly the fiscally conservative people they make themselves out to be. Is this time different? Do they really mean it this time? I doubt it. When things are good economically the republicans run on platform of moral change. When things are bad they run on a platform of less government, less taxes and less spending. Of course they never deliver.
I'm not saying the democrats do either. Both parties are liars, cheats, frauds and . . . well. . . politicians. What we are going to get is more of the same. Party A fucked things up so Party B gets elected. Party B hasn't fixed it yet so Party A gets another chance and we play the game over and over and over again.
My original point in this thread is that I feel the republican party is in a downward slide. They are relevant today and they will be for the next few elections, but as the make-up of this country changes and society mutates they are going to have to either make some changes or broaden their appeal if they want to continue to be relevant. Maybe them losing relevance is a good thing. Maybe we will eventually end up with three parties. We will have the democrats, the republicans which represent the very conservative and the tea party (or whatever they end up named) that is more in the middle and is more libertarian.
Maybe I'm wrong. But if I were the head of the republican party and I saw the types of changes that are coming about in this country from a racial make-up and ideology standpoint, I would be worried.
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You really didn't answer anything I stated
The GOP has been moving more to conservatism and away from the religious right, people have had enough of that and the GOP has been pushing that, so you stated that the GOP is not relevant is Bull Shit, their numbers aren't shrinking, the Democrats are. Check Rasmussen.
What Bush did to the GOP, Obamanation is doing to the Democrats right now.
Tea Party movement? It's not the GOP they are backing, they are backing conservatives. So if a GOP hopeful of their support wants to be elected, they must prove they have conservative views.
Right now I think we have the most out of touch president we have ever had and I can tell you that if he looses the house to the GOP this November, the spending will stop, some of his fuck ups will loose funding and he's going to have to play ball with the party he has been bashing for the last 2 years, just like Bill Clinton did, or he will be a one term president
I think he is arrogant, a racist, giving the BS with the Black Panthers and the Beer Summit BS. And I'm getting tired of the President of the US telling us what he is doing will work, I want results, I want to see some sign of it working. The only way the unemployment % has gone down is because funding has stopped for so many. The unemployment % is based on how many people are collecting unemployment and many have been unemployed so long that they are dropping off the map!