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Old 05-11-2010, 08:44 PM  
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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve View Post
Were we ever debating the existence of conspiracies? Does anyone read?

The quotes around 'conspiracy theorists' was done intentionally to refer to those people, whom in the face of facts and evidence to the contrary, stick to irrational beliefs about particular subjects. The original post cited some examples where there does exist groups of people who hold irrational beliefs - that is not to say that ALL beliefs are irrational, only that there exists fringe groups whom are obviously nuts. You guys can debate the specifics til you're blue in the face, that's not the point.

The point is this: to really be a critical thinker you have to be your own best auditor. If you can't audit the things you believe, if the things you believe fail even the most basic tests of logic.. then you should be interested in how it is you could believe such things.. and why. If the goal is to 'question everything', then question how it is one could arrive at these beliefs.

For example: What void does it fill to believe things that are obviously not true? There is no question, for example, the men walked on the moon (please.. no one even start the 'debate' or post 'evidence'.. I've been on teh interwebs before.. I've read it all). So why would someone want to so fervently believe that it was not true? What kind of trauma would you have to suffer, or what kind of mental state would a person have to be in to hold these beliefs? What social role does it play for people to even engage in "debate" over things that are not debatable.. where the side they choose doesn't even exist. Is it narcissism? anti-social personality disorder? just plain insanity? Is it an attempt to leverage asymmetrical information to assert social dominance? I don't know.. but i'm fascinated by it.
As someone else said you've bunched up things you want to believe isn't a conspiracy into a "theory." As far as the moon. I personally believe man has been there MANY times. I also believe that batteries we're found in Iraq that are 6500 years old. I also believe the pyramids were an ancient attempt at a form of power plants. I also believe that certain people didn't want those civilizations to progress. It's happened time and time again through history.. I have many other beliefs which have come from many years of MY OWN research which would GREATLY contradict most things you have ever been led to believe and I CAN support my findings with verifiable documented/historical evidence. If you believe that things haven't been hidden from the general public because certain people in certain places felt they didn't want you to know about those things for whatever reason (mostly power).. So be it.. I know differently.. Social dominance? You mean like religion and the squashing of anything with opposing views even when historical evidence PROVES them to be nothing but made up stories based on ancient myths.. The "believers" in those things are very much desribed in your OP.. So who's more crazy? Those 1700+ year old "story" believers or these others you describe?
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