Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

I think your terminology is confused here or something there's a big difference between most effective, maximum effective, and maximum ranges of a weapon...

I've taken many shots at that distance, I know the fucking drill, I know how a spotter works and what their job is... I was an 0311, 8531, and 8541 in the USMC. And ANY sniper will tell you that beyond the MAX effective range for your weapon is a whole lot of luck... Sure there's skill involved, you still have to be an EXCELLENT shot to even stand a chance of hitting your target but at that level the skill is a given. So to me, it's all luck...

I'm much more impressed by someone that can hit a point target within the max effective range of his weapon repeatedly without missing, while wind conditions are changing. THAT is a solid two man team. Not to mention stalking/tracking skills. Firing a weapon is really a very small part of what a sniper does. Positioning for the shot so you aren't seen when taking the shot... now THAT is all skill ;)