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Originally Posted by theking
The American that holds the record for the longest shot/kill in Iraq which was beyond the most effective range of his weapon...duplicated the shot on a range...not once...not twice...but three times consecutively. I repeat it is the spotter that provides the science and it is the art/skill of the shooter...with a little bit of luck. In his case he hit his target for the kill and duplicated the shot three times...consecutively...on a range thus more science and art/skill than luck...now isn't it.
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I think your terminology is confused here or something there's a big difference between most effective, maximum effective, and maximum ranges of a weapon...
I've taken many shots at that distance, I know the fucking drill, I know how a spotter works and what their job is... I was an 0311, 8531, and 8541 in the USMC. And ANY sniper will tell you that beyond the MAX effective range for your weapon is a whole lot of luck... Sure there's skill involved, you still have to be an EXCELLENT shot to even stand a chance of hitting your target but at that level the skill is a given. So to me, it's all luck...
I'm much more impressed by someone that can hit a point target within the max effective range of his weapon repeatedly without missing, while wind conditions are changing. THAT is a solid two man team. Not to mention stalking/tracking skills. Firing a weapon is really a very small part of what a sniper does. Positioning for the shot so you aren't seen when taking the shot... now THAT is all skill ;)