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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash
I hear what Jon is saying, most mexicans are just going to get a little hassle and then be on their way, but what if you lost your wallet, or left your ID at home. I've done it.
The difference between then and now is normally a cop wouldn't hassle you for ID unless you were doing something shady, so then if you wound up in a holding tank while they process you for the night you shouldn't have forgot your ID but more importantly you shouldn't have been doing something shady...
The slippery slope is this, if you take probable cause out of the equasion for this you can begin to use if for other scenerios as well. It may seem like it, but it's really not that far of a jump from you're hispanic let me see some id to you have tattoos let me search your car.
Probable cause is a check and ballance and its there for a reason. I cannot support its removal. I don't feel this is a last resort. I think there are more things the state can do that they haven't done.
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Then the same thing happens to them that happened to me back in 2007 or so when I got arrested for an FTA warrant that was a record keeping issue on behalf of the state.
They issued a warrant for my arrest based on my not showing up for court for a traffic ticket from late 2006 early 2007 I believe. MONTHS WENT BY and when I was out with a group of people doing high-speed runs down a scarcely used freeway, cops showed up and ran everyone's info. Mine came back flagged as having a warrant so off to jail I went.
Once I found out what exactly it was for I told the officer, the people transporting me from the satellite jail to the one downtown, and finally the only person that cared to listen - the judge - they were making a mistake. Luckily he believed me, looked it up and realized that yes I had been to court, and beyond that I went to trial AND was found not guilty.
So I got an apology and was let out about 6 hours later.
Pretty much the same thing that suspected illegals would go through if they were in fact legal citizens. Once they could prove it (be looked up in our country's wonderful system) they would be released. I'm white, it happened to me - and I went about my way just happy I didn't have to deal with more court bullshit regarding the matter.
People need to be happy that our government is finally doing something to help us out in our own country instead of dealing with bullshit where most of us will never come within 1000 miles of.
I fully support making people provide ID to prove they are citizens. I don't care if this place ends up like Nazi Germany in that regard, because we aren't going around killing off a race of people, we're just trying to make them go through the proper legal channels to gain citizenship. People are comparing this to the Nazi Regime but the major differences are that
A) we aren't trying to kill off mexican people
B) we aren't saying that mexicans can't be citizens, the government just wants them to go through the already established legal channels to obtain citizenship
C) (I could be wrong but) Obama isn't trying to cleanse the US LOL
It's been bad in AZ for a long time. Ever since I've lived here and I'm sure long before that. This isn't going to correct the problem I don't think. In fact I think it will just make the illegals go further towards the interior of the US and in 5-10 years more states will pass the same laws.