Originally Posted by kane

In a way you have made my point for me. He has produced a birth certificate. The group that looks at these documents as seen it and said it is legit and that he is a US citizen, yet that isn't good enough for a lot of people. A lot of people want to see the long form certificate.

My brother has a daughter who just started playing Softball. They have to show the kid's birth certificate when they sign up to prove her age and for some legal insurnace reason. My brother had lost her certificate so I helped him get online and order a copy of it. When you order it they tell you right up front that this will be a short form certificate, just like the one you would get when you leave the hospital with the baby and that if you want a copy of the long form certificate you have to contact a different group.

Everything accepts the the short form as proof. You can get a driver's license, passport and use it for anything else you would need in this country. Obama has shown the short form certificate. It has been authenticated and approved, yet that is still not good enough for some people.

I'm sure some of it is simply because this group is primarily made up of anti-Obama conservatives and he doesn't want placate them, but some of it is simply not playing games. Do you think if McCain had won or if this question had been brought up by a hippy liberal anti-republican group against Bush he would have played along? Somehow I doubt it.

If Obama showed his long form certificate they birthers would just switch mode. Then they would want him to prove that he didn't renounce his citizenship when he was a child and living overseas with his dad or that he isn't really a muslim. He will never make them happy so there is no use in trying.