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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
If you lose your job and have a house and some savings what happens?
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Then you're out of luck, never once did I say the system was completely fair. It's a free market, that much is obvious, no one is going to give you handouts. Just like when you lose your job you may lose your house and the ability to feed your family.
However, how fair is it that in a socialized medical system treatment is "rationed" by politicians? It's likely we have different definitions of what is fair. Is it fair that the government gets to choose what they think will raise the cost of health care and tax the hell out of you on it? Is it fair that as health care costs skyrocket everyone is forced to pay a small fortune of their income in taxes? What if in 10-15 years the government is taxing alcohol, cigarettes and unhealthy foods to a point where it's unaffordable? What if they completely ban them? Are you going to sit back and rationalize it? America is NOT a socialist country, to me that's more unfair than having to pay for my own health insurance. I enjoy my freedoms without excessive government intervention.
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This list come closer but not too close to what I enjoy with Socialized Medicine. So what's the problem?
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There is no problem Mark, I'm pointing out that regulations can be mandated in a free market without giving complete control to the government.
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What you have to do is wait and see what these measures cost then compare the cost between Social and Capitalist systems.
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There is NO doubt that a premium health insurance plan here costs more. Our doctors aren't government workers, they don't work for a fixed fee. Never said it was cheaper, however, I still wouldn't trade it for a government run health care system.
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Social = Full Medical care no questions asked from cradle to grave. You name it's usually paid for or heavily discounted. This provides a better system for preventing illnesses before the occur.
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Really? No questions asked? So when you're having bad headaches you can demand they give you an MRI? Or would they send you home with an aspirin until it got to the point where it was life threatening. There is no free ticket in this world, the government can't offer full health care without rationing to keep costs down. I'm glad to hear you had good experiences, as have I and my family. You might hear horror stories both ways, but that doesn't really tell the entire truth now does it?
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If the Capitalist system was to provide what we with Socialised Medicine enjoy (without thinking) the cost would be crippling for most Americans.
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In my opinion, it's the opposite. If the socialist system where to provide all the freedoms and perks of private premium health care your system would fail within a decade. Just because the poor, impoverished and unemployed jolt the statistics in your favor doesn't mean it's a superior system. It just means you live in a socialist country that "spreads the wealth".