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Except this was never stated by me, anywhere. Strawman #1
I never stated that the wealthy don't cheat, you're using it to speak for all rich people. Strawman #2
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Here's what you said:
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I think the idea that the "rich cheat to become rich" is either a myth, or a really bad exaggeration.
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If you're saying that the idea that the rich cheat to become rich is a myth, and you said it, then you've said that the rich don't cheat.
Reasonable people call your flat denial of that a lie, or hypocrisy. Take your pick.
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I never stated anything was ok, I stated that there is no difference between our alleged "plutocracy" and everybody else's. Are you even reading what you're responding to? Strawman #3.
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you said this:
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I don't understand why all of a sudden, people think that America should be like every other nation. Our values are distinct from other nations and they'll always stay that way.
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If America is different because our values are so distinct and that justifies why we run our health care system in such stark contrast to the other Western industrialized nations then it follows logic that our values would also dictate a difference in who rules and how. If our Plutocracy is no different than anyone else's than neither are our values. You can't have it both ways.
More hypocrisy.
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Have no idea what this is other than an emotional outburst.
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Not an emotional outburst. Just pointing out your hypocrisy and challenging you to do better.
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The reason why the depression lasted 15 something years was because of government interference. We had deregulation post WWII and were on the gold standard, that is why we experienced a boom unlike any in history.
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The reason the depression happened at all was due to a lack of reasonable regulations. People were trading on margins and the banks weren't regulated to protect their deposits so that they could take enormous risks with money they didn't actually have. I'm not advocating over-regulation and wouldn't go as far as the Democrats would, but it's painfully obvious that the participants of the system such as banks and other financial entities are incapable of regulating themselves or behaving in a way that will benefit anyone but themselves. Some regulation is necessary and that regulation should be written and enforced by people NOT associated with these institutions in any way at all.
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More government=less economic prosperity. That's how it's worked in America throughout history.
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Not enough government = financial meltdown
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Illogical emotional outburst #2
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Neither illogical nor emotional. Rational and metered response to your complete lack of shame in being able to criticize people who abuse the system at one end but can't be honest about the abusers at the other.
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Which basically proves my point when you have to throw back a ridiculous insult. I'm glad you looked up "pejoratives" in the dictionary lol.
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Not an insult, only an observation. Perhaps you should look up the difference. BTW-I didn't need to look up pejoratives. Keep the vituperative tone up though, it's nice that you can amuse yourself so cheaply.
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I'm glad you have proof of this, other than your emotional rants. Too easy
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Amazing comment coming from someone who claims to be a fan of Ron Paul and Peter Schiff. Perhaps instead of just saying you're a fan you should really dig into what they're saying instead of reading the cliffs notes. They've both pointed out the flaws in the system and how it's geared to keep the plutocracy in power...especially Ron Paul. You can also read Stiglitz and Krugman.
In all your postings and rants I see lots of opinions, anecdotes, ad hominem attacks, hypocrisy, petty name calling and an adolescent attitude which deflects any serious challenge with "that's a straw man" or "no it isn't" or "you clearly don't know much about (fill in the blank)" but I see no facts whatsoever. It's almost as if you watch or scan some sources with conservative POVs but don't actually do any research on your own.
Dropping names of politicians, economists and the Peter Schiffs of the world doesn't amount to much if you don't listen to or understand what they're saying. I don't see the ability to think critically in your posts. You're clinging to ideology without giving any room for the possibility that you or your POV could be flawed in any way.