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Originally Posted by kane
The dems have the votes. They have said so and you can see it in the looks on the republicans faces. They lost and are now going through the last throws of their resistance. So, want it or not we will now have this health care bill. The amendments still have to pass the senate, but Reid has already said they have the 51 votes needed to make that happen.
So what do you think will happen?
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In short? Nothing Kane. Not for a long while that is. The Republicans will go through all the motions to the point where everybody is tired of dealing with it. Then they'll take a hiatus and start again. Having the bill passed today is basically like 10% of the entire process.
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Will the republicans now take back the house and senate in the fall and work hard to repeal most of it?
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Sure looks that way.
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Will this fire up the democratic base and help them hold onto the house and senate?
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Considering the majority of Americans don't want this bill, no.
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Will they fight over it at every chance they get while continuing to make changes to it which will cause it to never really see the full light of day?
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Absolutely.
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Will the republicans win back the house and then oust Obama in 2012 so they can just shut it all down?
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I think it's looking that way, although I don't want one party controlling everything, Republicans or Democrats.
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Will it eventually be allowed to take full effect and then we will just have to wait to see how bloated and corrupt it gets.
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If this happens which I strongly doubt, it will be a LONG time before it comes into fruition.
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No matter how you see it, today was a historic day for this country. The question will be whether it will be historically good or bad.
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Historically bad for economic reasons. Even when they pass it today, there's no guarantee of it going anywhere really, it's just a small step for Democrats. I'm interested to see if they'll honor the ban on federally funded abortions.
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This bill will invigorate the far left. The polls have showed that the moderates are split down the middle on it. It will also fire up the right and the next several months will be very ugly as they go back and forth at each other.
In the November election the republicans will gain seats in the hose and senate, but not enough to retake either (although I think they will be very close). Obama will raise close to 1 billion in campaign funds and win re-election in 2012. However, he will lose the house and maybe the senate in 2012. This will lead to s face-off between the republicans who will do anything they can to shut this down and the white house who will do anything they can to keep it alive
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I see it playing differently. The Dems lose the senate or the house, if not both, and magically, there will be some form of cooperation between the Republicans and Obama. If the elections were held today, I don't know if Obama would win. Then again, I don't know who would run against him.
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In the end it will end up causing a major cluster fuck in Washington DC for the next 4-6 years and will do nothing to bring this country together.
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Oh it's definitely the end game for us, especially with the economic teetering on the edges of oblivion.