Originally Posted by SleazyDream

how about the sharp spike in the last 30 years...

i live close to northern communities. they rely on ice roads to get supplies. the roads statistically every year run shorter and shorter seasons.... I see it here as we're effected by the trucks and traffic of the people from the north coming though in the winter.

in my 37 years - a statistically SHORT period of time - winters are shorter. I've scene it in my life already. If you look back 500 years nothing compared to the warming of the last 30 years.