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Originally Posted by alan-l
there's something I still don't understand, so just to be clear:
1- Did Cleo hire Czarina? It seems like that since Cleo had exactly the same tour.
2- If Cleo hired Czarina, then did Czarina stole the model from Cleo?
3- If Cleo didn't hire Czarina, who made that tour? And why is Czarina using it?
4- If Cleo hired Czarina, did she pay for the design? And if so, did she lose her money and on top of that she lost her model?
5- If Cleo hired Czarina and she didn't pay, could it be that Czarina stole her model on revenge?
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Ana wanted a new tour about two years ago and I hired Czarina and Ana paid Czarina's fee.
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Originally Posted by alan-l
well, things sounds a lot different now. Still you're not saying it all, since it's obvious that Cleo didn't just host her, but at least paid VISA fees and she has a program, affiliates, referrers and such, so, unless you contacted Cleo before hand and made some kind of arrangement, you stole the model from her and she'll lose some income. Pizza money or not. Even if Anna owned the CC processing account, by changing referring codes you fucked her off all her affiliates. If you were palying legit, you'd have imported accounts, which it's pretty evident you didn't or Cleo wouldn't be this mad....
... In short, what I thought as first was comfirmed: Ana is just a dumb idiot using the site to promote her escorting side, Cleo is a moron who believes in fairies and unicorns and you're just the shady person who noticed this situation and took advantage of it getting a free site filled with content in the process. And as unethical and shady as this whole thing was, hats off to you.
On the other side, now you have a big neon sign over your head. Seeing how you conduct business I doubt many people will want to hire you, so I hope this site really worths it  |
That pretty much sums it up.
Czarina was hired again to add camshows to Ana's site by Ana and given FTP access by me to do this late last year.
Czarina used her FTP access to copy the enter domain under a new CCBill account on her server.
Czarina put up very large text links on every page of both the root tour and affiliate tour to her new domain on the original domain and also screwed up the join page when she added the link to the camshows causing the join buttons to stop working.
I removed Czarina's text links, fixed the join pages and changed the FTP password locking out Czarina.
Czarina then advised Ana to change the name servers on her domain to point to Czarina's domain redirecting all traffic from TSMiamiGoddess.com to AnaTranny.com
After a phone from Ana letting me know what was going on I deleted the domain TSMiamiGoddess.com from my server but leaving the files there as I did not want to be a part of fucking over her her affiliates, including me.
I was Ana's third or forth webmaster. The domain TSMiamiGoddess.com was moved to my server by the webmaster before me. The CCBill account was setup by her first webmaster and controlled by Ana.
I simple keep everything the same when I became the webmaster.
I billed Ana .50¢ a gig for her bandwidth which came out to an average of about $50 a month. I charged her a small amount of she gave me updates to render the movies, turn the pics into galleries and add them to the member's area but she just about never gave me updates.
TSMiamiGoddess.com averaged around 200 members. About half of these members were through joins that I sent and then rest were either from affiliates that were under me or joins that Ana were from search engines. By Czarina switching CCBill accounts all of this was wiped out.
It was a nice deal for me to make a couple of bucks off of my unused bandwidth and scraper traffic from no thank you links at the bottom of galleries. It was pizza money compared to what I make off of my other stuff but it was and easy few extra bucks each month.
I would have had no problem at all if Czarina wanted to become Ana's next webmaster if she had kept the same CCBill account but by switching CCBill accounts she fucked over everyone.