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gothweb · 04-28-2003, 10:22 AM

I thought I would post this now, since I have had thoughts like this for a while, and for once they came to mind when I was totally calm.

This industry is fucked up. Here's some general thoughts that have been floating around in my black-dyed head. Discuss...

First, there's virtually no morality. I don't mean the fact that we're in porn. I know that. Naked people, filming sex, blah blah blah. What I mean is that people just don't *think* about right and wrong.

How often do you hear someone say that someone shouldn't complain about a moral issue because "we're all in porn anyhow"? Apparently, because we do some things that some people think are wrong, we don't need to be moral.

I know it is easy to think that since we're in a vice industry, we shouldn't bother. Well, I have an idea for you. Since we're in a vice industry, we need to try even harder to make sure we don't cross the line. We are much closer to the line, and it would be easy to do unconscionable things. Plus, if we don't show that we are capable of moral thought and restrained action, then we become what everyone says we are. We prove them right, and give the world more reason to put us out of business.

Or, since morality is a subject that is so foreign and upsetting to so many people on here (I know someone will call me a pussy, or holier-than-thou for even bringing it up)... I can talk about something a bit simpler... Business ethics.

Where the hell are the business ethics in this industry? Look at how much of what is done is informal, and off the books. Look at how much of ther industry is based on posturing, rather than being businesslike. How many people respond to disputes with insults or threats? It's nuts.

Sometimes, it feels like the wild west. (Especially when I was going through a certain dispute.) It doesn't matter what has been promised, what has been signed, what the law is, or what the right thing would be. Might makes right, and possession is 9/10 of the law.

Well, guess what? This is 2003, not the wild west, and not 1920s Chicago. Might doesn't make right, and we should be above it.

Thuggery, shaving, shell companies, offshore bullshit, hitbots, contact evasion, content theft, non-payment, transparent excuses... It goes on and on.

And that's just how we deal with eachother. How some adut business deal with their customers is even more insane.

Spam, "free trials", stealth cross-sales, popups everywhere, fake "niche" sites with bullshit member areas, sites thrown together with no knowledge of the subject, overzealous rebilling, blind links, unneccesary "eraser" software, illegal content, dubious content, it goes on and on.

Wouldn't you rather be at least a little proud of your job?

04-28-2003, 10:22 AM
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	This industry is fucked up I thought I would post this now, since I have had thoughts like this for a while, and for once they came to mind when I was totally calm. This industry is fucked up. Here's some general thoughts that have been floating around in my black-dyed head. Discuss... First, there's virtually no morality. I don't mean the fact that we're in porn. I know that. Naked people, filming sex, blah blah blah. What I mean is that people just don't think about right and wrong. How often do you hear someone say that someone shouldn't complain about a moral issue because "we're all in porn anyhow"? Apparently, because we do some things that some people think are wrong, we don't need to be moral. I know it is easy to think that since we're in a vice industry, we shouldn't bother. Well, I have an idea for you. Since we're in a vice industry, we need to try even harder to make sure we don't cross the line. We are much closer to the line, and it would be easy to do unconscionable things. Plus, if we don't show that we are capable of moral thought and restrained action, then we become what everyone says we are. We prove them right, and give the world more reason to put us out of business. Or, since morality is a subject that is so foreign and upsetting to so many people on here (I know someone will call me a pussy, or holier-than-thou for even bringing it up)... I can talk about something a bit simpler... Business ethics. Where the hell are the business ethics in this industry? Look at how much of what is done is informal, and off the books. Look at how much of ther industry is based on posturing, rather than being businesslike. How many people respond to disputes with insults or threats? It's nuts. Sometimes, it feels like the wild west. (Especially when I was going through a certain dispute.) It doesn't matter what has been promised, what has been signed, what the law is, or what the right thing would be. Might makes right, and possession is 9/10 of the law. Well, guess what? This is 2003, not the wild west, and not 1920s Chicago. Might doesn't make right, and we should be above it. Thuggery, shaving, shell companies, offshore bullshit, hitbots, contact evasion, content theft, non-payment, transparent excuses... It goes on and on. And that's just how we deal with eachother. How some adut business deal with their customers is even more insane. Spam, "free trials", stealth cross-sales, popups everywhere, fake "niche" sites with bullshit member areas, sites thrown together with no knowledge of the subject, overzealous rebilling, blind links, unneccesary "eraser" software, illegal content, dubious content, it goes on and on. Wouldn't you rather be at least a little proud of your job? __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.