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Libertine · 11-29-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkland

Seems you ONLY accept the science that supports your view and ignore the rest. That isn't science, that is more akin to religion. I am almost 40 and have spent the better part of 15 years learning. Science, physics, quantum mechanics, astronomy, you name it. I have a FIRM grasp on the subject over someone who has read a few articles and watched a couple documentaries.

I read all the scientific journals, do my own research into subjects, make informed decisions based on information and evidence. NOT based on a few articles and some documentaries.

Let us look at some REAL facts:

1. CO2 is not a gas pollutant in our atmosphere. Quite the opposite. It is actually quite important. FACT
2. CO2 levels have increased and decreased in natural cycles long before we came into the picture. FACT
3. Currently about 57% of human-emitted CO2 is removed by the biosphere and oceans; without this effect CO2 levels would be even higher. FACT
4. Global Warming AND cooling occurred and continues to do so in natural cycles. Long before we came into the picture. FACT.
5. Ice Caps melt and reform in natural cycles. Long before we came into the picture. FACT

6. Man is causing global warming. NON-FACT and at present undecided.
We have no conclusive evidence of this and what little there was now seems to be from fraudulent data discovered by the recent hack. I find it funny that you somehow think the fraudulent activity that has come to light is from unimportant institutions and scientists. You apparently know nothing about it and have read NONE of the leaked information AT ALL.

Do we need to stop polluting? Yes
Are there cleaner forms of energy? Yes
Can we stop or change global warming? No and we shouldn't try
Can we take away or stop CO2 from entering our atmosphere? No and we shouldn't try

The outcome? There are far more (I only listed a few) facts that would cause one to lean towards a natural global warming trend rather than man made global warming.

What I DO agree on, if we don't curb our polluting these things may change. It is idiotic that we have take giant leaps in technology but our energy source and technology is no better than it was 100 years ago.

Here are the parts of what you say that don't fit with the rest:

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Can we stop or change global warming? No and we shouldn't try
Can we take away or stop CO2 from entering our atmosphere? No and we shouldn't try

We know for a fact that we are emitting massive amounts of additional CO2 into the atmosphere, and we know for a fact that if that CO2 has any effect on climate (whether it's cooling or warming), it has negative effects us.

Even if we were to accept everything else you say (which we shouldn't, but going into that subject would lead us to the tired old discussion I've had dozens of times on this board), it would still be a good idea to cut down our CO2 emissions until we knew exactly what the exact long-term effects were.

Since we're talking about something that would be pretty damn big if true, we'd need to have a pretty broad consensus leaning the other way not to take action.