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Originally Posted by gimme-website
I agree with you on all points
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Not all designers/coders are unprofessional ambulance chasers.
There are many who do good work for others, and there are the guys I work with regularly that do excellent work for me. Even though they cost more than others, they are professionals, and I like the way they conduct business.
They demand a premium and are worth it. They make new projects, and my life, so much easier.
When I hand it off, I know it is in good hands, and will be done timely. If there is a problem, I know I will get notification, and it will be fixed. I will not have to chase them down to get some un-professional excuse as to why it was not done. I prefer working with the same people, and once you find those who are professionals. They typically stay busy.
That said, there is the flip side of the low ballers most complain about who never want to pay for anything. I'll give you a quick example on that side of the coin...
Current project in sig. I have CMS/script already done, customized, designer in place, and all you need to be up and running in 1-2 weeks (depending on workload).
A decent number of those who contact me think price is too much for CMS/script or whatever. Claim they will just go have their own built, get their own designer, cheaper content whatever.
Ok. So let's look at this rationally.
I have everything in place to have you a fully functioning website you can drive away in 2 weeks time, including CSS/html, installations, integration, including payment API and any tweaks and mods, including content for a set price.
You are a cheapskate and so you want to cut corners and do the following....
1. Try and find a quality coder who will build you a CMS/script to do the same thing.
2 .Try and find a quality designer who can do what you need in design.
3. Try and get comparable content at the price point I can offer.
4. Hopefully your designer can code css/html because not all can.
5. The CMS/script development time can take months! Not only to get initial writing out of what you need, and want. How you want it to work, look, and so on. Then work out the kinks and testing, plus fixes and final mods before skinning, and then whatever....
The point being, best case scenario is 2-3+ months costing you even more in time, and eventually money, trying to nickel and dime to get it cheaper. In the end, you will probably have an inferior product depending on where you go. Where you can get a total solution for a few bucks more.
The point being, you could have been making money for those 2-3 months instead of trying to reinvent the wheel to save a few bucks. Plus that is assuming your coder and designer you find, and pick even FINISH the product to begin with.
It is a lot more complex than most people think when it comes to building a good website on a solid platform, and when it comes to a flagship type of site, or one you just want running stable. It is worth the added cost to pay for the better designer and coders.
Unfortunately, their are few professionals available, and most that are that caliber, have steady work and clients. Most do not think of it, but the time lost trying to be cheap is a MAJOR FUCKING PISSER and in the end will cost you more in time/money/aggravation then it's worth.